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C: Devotional Dating - TFTB for real female control
Date: 20 Apr 2009 03:43:25 -0000
From: MichaelK

In Re: C: Devotional Sex, john henry wrote:

>always wanted to be a Knight as expressed in this site and
>would like to know if anyone has any practical knowledge

John (and others),

I have found that the best way to find a Princess is via normal
dating.

Devotional Sex does not need the woman to be dominant, and
Devotional Sex allows the Knight to make lots of suggestions
(seen as Topping from the Bottom in traditional BDSM). So your
first Devotional Date will be very different from a slave having
a session with a Mistress.

What has worked very well for me is to arrange a date in the
normal way, and then, if there seems to be some mutual
chemistry, to tell my date something about Devotional Sex during
our first or second date before we have done anything sexual.

This first talk has sometimes been near the end of our
conversation over dinner, sometimes during a long walk, and
sometimes only started when we go back to my place and she
accepts my offer of giving her a foot massage.

Of course you only tell your date what she seems interested to
hear, and you tell her more as it feels appropriate to do so. If
she is interested she will ask many questions, and so it can be
an easy and fun first conversation.

Telling your date that the man not ejaculating comes from an
ancient Eastern tradition is much less confronting than saying
it is a BDSM practice. And telling her that you will do whatever
she says is best done without mentioning BDSM or FemDom. (If she
mentions this you just say that the control aspect is a mild
version of a BDSM Mistress.)

Before I started Devotional Sex most dates did not end up with
sex. So, not surprisingly, when I include a mention of
Devotional Sex when dating, most dates still do not end up with
any sexual activity.

What happens when you tell a "normal" date that because of your
practice of Devotional Sex you will not cum that night, that you
will do whatever she says, that there is no slippery slope so
that one thing need not lead on to another, and that, if she
wants to go that far, you can even go to bed together and you
will give her oral sex without anything else happening?

I have found that many women love the idea of first sexual
activity not being the usual everything must happen.

They love the idea of being able to relax with some intimacy (eg
a foot massage) without feeling that this is expected to lead to
full sex a short time later.

If not mentioned beforehand, during a first foot massage I tell
my date that Devotional Sex is the most fun when we both feel
that her power is real, and a good way to establish this right
at the beginning is for one person to partly or fully undress. I
say that if she chooses to take something off her power is made
real because I am not allowed to touch unless she says so, and
of course I would feel very much that she had power over me if
she asked me to be undressed as I continue with her foot
massage. I usually also say that we can enjoy spending time
together with just one of us undressed without things going any
further.

Sometimes a both fully dressed foot massage is as far as things
go, but more often my date has me undress. Most common is that
my date wants me to keep my underpants on.

Sometimes things then go no further than some kissing and
cuddling in the living room.

During the foot massage I always let my date know that one
option for later is to go to bed with me having to keep my
underpants on all the time we are in bed. I add that this bed
can just be for a cuddle, but that I really love to give oral
sex, and that I am very happy to give her oral without getting
anything in return.

And this is what happens in quite a few dates :-)

My date had not heard of Devotional Sex a few hours ago, but now
she is very much feeling like a Princess. And having enjoyed
giving her oral sex, and knowing that this is as far as things
go, I very much feel like her Knight.

As I said before, most dates don't lead to anything.

My feeling is that for every woman who might have been
interested in me but was put off by my mentioning Devotional Sex
there were more women who would not have done anything if they
thought that starting something would lead to conventional sex,
but liked the idea of Devotional Sex and so something happened
when otherwise nothing would have.

Using Devotional Sex in dating means that it will probably be
many dates before you go as far as intercourse.

As most first (and second) dates do not lead to a medium term
relationship, most Devotional Dating never gets as far as
intercourse.

But I find that Devotional Sex is so much fun and so much more
erotic and satisfying than conventional sex that missing out on
intercourse (until I find a longer term partner) is an
acceptable cost of Devotional Dating.

A written version of the sort of things I would tell a first
date is on my site here:-

Devotional Dating

This consists of a very mild "can we talk about sex?" page,
followed by an "Outline of Devotional Sex" page, and finally a
"How do we put this into practice" page.

Of course no date gets told all of this. And what is said comes
out bit by bit over the evening. And of course what and how
things are said needs to match your dates interest.

This is very much Topping from the Bottom as almost everything
that happens will be suggested by the Knight.

Having established a mutual feeling that what happens is totally
up to your date, it is often necessary to suggest things several
times. The first mention plants the seed of possibility, the
second or third mentions may lead to action.

For example, when you first mention the idea of one person
undressing for the foot massage, not many women will take this
up straight away. But if after ten or so minutes of further foot
massage you mention that you would find it fun and sexy to be
undressed, would she like you to do this now, you might find
that given the second mention she now says yes. If she says not
yet, just add that she only needs to say "Undress" and you are
committed to obeying her.

Devotional Dating is very real female control because absolutely
nothing happens unless your date wants it to happen. A big part
of the excitement for a Knight is that you never know how far
things will go and which path she will choose.

This has all worked for me many times.

I hope this long post is useful to others and at least some of
you share my success.

Cheers,
Michael

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C: Dominant Female having no luck
From: Yvonne King
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:32:03 -0500

I am a 57 year old Dominant Female who is having no luck finding
a submissive male-play toy-companion to spend time with. I live
in a large metropolitan area in Texas. I am a large woman (5'7
288 pounds) Black professional who is self-sufficient and
looking for someone else who is self-sufficient.

I have found that older men, in the 40 plus age range are
looking for Dommes from 5 to 20 years younger than they are or
married men looking to cheat on their wives. Obviously neither
of these categories work.

I am looking on web sites, private parties, meet and greets. I
find males who are surprised/resentful that I have a job, house,
and car or is a selfish bottom faking the desire to submit. I
know some men won't be interested in me because I am overweight.
Fine, I have lived with that for a while. I am wondering what is
wrong.

Before you get on me about being out of shape, please note that
I go to parties with Dommes who are out of shape and still have
subs. Point 2 - I am working on it (to date having lost 50
pounds) and dealing with a hostage taking treadmill at the local
gym successfully. I never want to be tiny.. a size 14 will work
for me...as I have leather outfits in mind that I want.

I would appreciate helpful suggestions. Haters keep your
thoughts to yourself. I am open to private emails.

vonneb2@hotmail.com

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Re: C: ManTran - Ball ring
Date: 22 Apr 2009 22:50:03 -0000
From: shoekisser

Jess wrote:

>ManTran I could not find a link or any other info

I originally wanted to use Mantran dot com, until I was informed
by David that it had been taken.

Out of curiosity, I contacted the owner for permission to use it
in the story. The reply said I could purchase it for only $1400.

I decided .org would work.

Like Christine said, the story is fiction.

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P: new stable - orgasm denial
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Victoria Markham

Having recently returned to the country I am now in a position
to accept new serfs for online training. Previous submissives
will know the satisfaction that can be achieved by my methods
which are very discrete. I am a 30 year old British dominatrix
who knows how to give orders and to make you feel worthless.

Serving me is an honour, it costs nothing. Just email me. My
speciality is orgasm denial so if you would like your pleasure
to only be allowed when I say so then a polite email is your
next step.

Mistress Victoria

victoriatrix7@yahoo.co.uk

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S: The Hot Day : Fantasy
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:06:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Victoria Markham

The Hot Day : Fantasy

Mark shifted the powerful saloon into 3rd and easily overtook
the slower traffic as it toiled up the hill, he enjoyed driving
the long distances his work took him and with a few good cds and
on such a wonderful day who would want to be behind a desk?

The English countryside flashed past in all its glory and he
pulled the visor down to block the sun from his eyes. Thirty and
single with a good job, he had no problem with women, but no one
special. He had resisted opening the magazines in his briefcase
which he had bought on the outskirts of the city. Keep them for
tonight in the hotel, he thought.

He was a good driver and noted in the long layby ahead a flash
of yellow and blue. He slowed as he got closer, very tasty, he
thought. The yellow was the tee shirt of Tamsin Rogers and the
blue was her short pleated blue skirt, he slowed the car and
Tamsin eagerly waved him down and picked up her bag. Maybe it
would be good to have some company he smiled to himself..

"Hi, want a lift?" smiled Mark.

Tamsin smiled back, "mmmm yes please can you help us with our
bags they are ever so heavy."

Mark hadn't seen Nicola who was sitting in the shade wearing big
dark sunglasses and tight cut off denim shorts, frayed and
faded. "My pleasure," he said as he lifted their camping gear
into his boot.

Tamsin sat in the front and Nicola in the rear. Mark couldn't
believe his luck having two such lookers in his car. Maybe he
would chat them up, who knows. Tamsin was more talkative at
first, blonde with shoulder length hair, while Nicola was dark
and seemed a bit sulky.

Tamsin explained they were returning from a camping trip, both
in their final university year. They chatted amiably for a while
before Tamsin drifted off to sleep, allowing Mark to take in her
long brown legs, her skirt already short folded back slightly
now and again in the breeze from the half open window, and he
felt his cock swelling at the frustration of not quite being
able to see her knickers.

Nicola didn't say much as the car ate up the miles.

They stopped a few miles further on and Mark bought them drinks
in the roadside cafe, the lorry drivers' heads turning to see
the girls. Mark felt proud that he had two beauties in tow.

As he went ahead back to the car he felt sure the girls held
back. They were giggling about something and was it his
imagination or were they more flirty with him when they got back
in?

Tamsin now had her feet on the dashboard, she obviously wanted
him to look at her legs. Nicola lit a cigarette without asking
in the back and passed it to Tamsin. Normally Mark wouldn't have
allowed it but he liked to watch the young blonde blow out the
blue smoke.

Tamsin asked him about his work and Mark explained he was a
civil engineer, so what's in your briefcase said Nicola.

"Oh just work stuff but it's private," he said, it was then that
Nicola clicked open his case...

to be continued

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U: Real Life Femdom
Date: 26 Apr 2009 20:46:26 -0000
From: Jay

Hello fellow femdom companions.

I am in a real life honest to goodness loving femdom marriage
and my Wife and I both LOVE IT. Our relationship has been
drastically evolving over the last few years and I just wanted
to start writing about what my Wife and I consider a "Real Life
Femdom" relationship.

I will discuss real dynamics, real situations, real success and
real failures.

So, if interested please check out my new blog: "Real Life
Femdom". The URL address is:

http://reallifefemdom.blogspot.com

Thanks,

Jay

P.S. Thanks Ms. Christine for all you do.

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