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# C: A personal real-life update. There are dominant females!
# Re: C: In praise of Dominant Women - totally their inferior in UK
# C: The Lady's not for twittering
# S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Twenty-six


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C: A personal real-life update. There are dominant females!
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:03:56 -0400
From: feeteager


For the last week or so, i have been following the thread
started by Nuked about there not being any dominant females.

After reading Christine's rejection of Nuked's point of view. i
thought it may be appropriate to share my real-life experience:
I am still learning.

For years it has been understood that i am to be denied the
pleasures that a "Real" man probably takes for granted
(receiving oral and intercourse). During this time it was
decreed that i would be required to maintain my hairless pubic
region as symbolic of those pleasures denied to me and reserved
for only a "Real" man.

She teased me verbally saying that the thing She missed most was
the friction caused by the rubbing of a Man's pubic bone against
Hers. During this time i was cuckolded.

It was understood that it was within Her rights to cuckold me
and that She may or may not tell me of the occurrence. Since i
travelled a lot on business for a week or two at a time, She had
me calling Her nightly and would from time to time hint at one
of Her adventures. Her teasing made my thoughts race and spin.
Upon my return, Her attitude would resume exactly where W/we had
left off.

We have remained in a very satisfying marriage for now 28+ years
and expect it to continue. As O/our aging process takes it's
toll upon O/our bodies, some thoughts and actions are bound to
change.

Within the last year Mistress has made it clear to me that She
now intends on never again allowing me oral or intercourse
pleasures. Mostly this had to do with hormonal changes on Her
part but She still recognizes my interest in Her sexually and
sees this as being healthy.

Still, i am to maintain my hairless pubic region and on
occasion, have been ordered to paint my toenails a red color
that would be universally acknowledged to be fitting for a "lady
of the night" (appropriate for my status as a toe-boy). She
particularly likes this because it causes me to see this added
humiliation daily and not to forget that i am still under Her
rule. With an adult offspring still living with U/us, it causes
me to be very careful so as not to raise any further
embarrassing questions.

Truthfully, the novelty and shock of seeing my red toenails
lasts now about a week or so. After that, i really do not like
it and about 8 weeks ago, took the polish off.

It was quickly noted by Mistress that i had not received Her
permission and i was promptly ordered to re-paint my toes and
remove all remaining body hair below my eyebrows (reduced to
bitch-boy status). Furthermore, i was required to maintain my
hairless condition until She granted Her permission to re-grow
it.

It has been one of Her rules that for me to request Her
permission to re-grow my hair i was to be "freshly groomed"
(void of hair in the concerned area or areas). Until i received
Her permission to re-grow any body hair, i was to remain
hairless below the eyebrows (the markings of an absolute slave-
boy).

She mercifully has allowed me to remove that awful polish about
4 weeks ago and i was truly grateful. For the past 3-4 weeks i
have been busy with my work and re-painting the interior of
O/our home. She regularly re-decorates O/our bathroom and has
insisted upon pink as the dominant color. Of course, i do not
argue that point with Her.

During these past few weeks i had not maintained a completely
hairless body due to fatigue that such work has entailed for me.
Before last weekend, i noticed that my chest, leg and underarm
areas had started to sprout a nice re-growth. i thought i would
just see how long i would be able to allow it to re-grow and
with the summer months upon U/us, i thought wearing a pair of
shorts now and then would be especially comfortable.

On Memorial Day, Mistress simply commented on the stubble i had
developed and i quickly broke off the conversation saying that i
needed to run to the grocery store to get some food for U/us.

i now knew that She had taken note of my disobedience and my
lack of respect for Her rules. She does not like to use corporal
punishments but has used chastity cages regularly to keep me in
line as well. Usually the cage will be locked for only a week
but has lasted for three weeks (with only cleaning respites).

i am well aware of how a chastity cage causes a male slave to
concentrate his focus. i have no desire to be deprived of my
sleep either!

Only 3 days since Her comment and i am again freshly groomed
(completely hairless below my eyebrows).


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Re: C: In praise of Dominant Women - totally their inferior in UK
Date: 28 May 2009 01:54:24 -0000
From: grape


Femfan, I thought your post was rather nice. I'd ignore the
advice of others to lower the standards of what you are looking
for. Beautiful powerful dominant females are out there. I know
because I'm owned by one.

I have a theory that older siblings make great femdoms, if you
learn about the four basic personality traits (thinker
socialiser relater and director) that can help too. A lot of
Dommes don't know they are and think they are just bossy
bitches. They try to reign in their true nature.

If you can find the right person it may be a simple matter of
encouraging them to be themselves and helping them get societal
conditioning out of the way. That's what I did. It took 10 years
to get there and if we never did I still loved her and was
committed to her, perhaps that's why we got there.


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Re: C: In praise of Dominant Women - totally their inferior in UK
Date: 28 May 2009 11:10:48 -0000
From: Amanece


I agree with both of you.

Of course there are many women just like Femfan describes!, in
real lives and in their own fantasies, depends on them how far
they want to carry their dominance or ways. If as Femfan
desires, that is another thing, but am sure even if not into his
fantasy, they are equally strong, as are all of those who lead a
female led relationship. Femfan answered to Ms. Christine
wanting writings, in addition presented his view of his Femdom.
I thought it was a great post.

I must agree with Michael in the quantity of people looking and
not be able to find. Every time I have searched, and has been a
few, there have always been lots of responses. Now I was
searching again, this time a retired submissive, as at my 56 I
think it is best to find someone who is in my same stage of
life.

Sadly, I found many men looking for someone who would fill their
lives, give meaning to it, as their own is sad, a routine, no
joy. And I just want to mention that life must be complete for
oneself before going to look outside, especially your fantasies,
your inner cloister. It is too important to confuse our needs, I
call it addiction, as it has been so for me all my life, with
our retired, nothing to do life. Reading their profiles there
has been a lot of anger, disappointment. It saddened me.

A ds life is like any other relationship, difficult to find,
difficult to nourish and maintain. It involves a lot of energy.
The internet helps to work out the illusion it could be. I have
fallen for that illusion several times, I am great at fantasies
jeje...

I guess I just wanted to say, we are as we are and should live
to lead the life we want. But it is also short and we should
make each day valuable. Look for exactly what you want but also
lead a happy life on your own, it is in you.


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Re: C: In praise of Dominant Women - totally their inferior in UK
Date: 28 May 2009 22:49:06 -0000
From: richard

well said - and hopefully your dreams and visions will now come
true


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Re: C: In praise of Dominant Women - totally their inferior in UK
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:31:32 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


Hello fem fan,

you wrote:

>this is my first post

And you are off to a good start. Keep it up.

>I felt it was my duty as a sub male to answer the call of a
>superior woman and throw my hat into the ring

A very nice hat you threw in too :-) The compliments were a
welcome bonus as well.

>the latest instalments of The Bank Manager's Cupboard have
>been mind blowing - Ms Christine, you're an amazing author!

Thank you fem fan, and in recognition of your enthusiasm I've
just posted the next episode. I'm fairly sure you'll like it, it
is probably my favourite episode of the story. I had the giggles
as I concocted it. And I smiled at my naughtiness as I re-read
it while posting it. I just love how wicked I was being.

>knowing that the Yin to my Yang is out there.

She is out there somewhere. But as I'm sure you know, she will
not be like any of my fictional characters, which let's face it
are a bit OTT. Although it's possible they'll give her a giggle
too if you share your favourite stories with her.

>I would expect her to have (should she wish) a kennel, stable,
>or harem of males that are enslaved and broken beneath her
>heel, serving her in any way she desires - maybe even
>specialising in different areas according to her desires,
>serving as her cleaners, shoppers, manicurists, pedicurists,
>butlers, even as her toilet, toilet paper, oral slaves, and
>lovers.

Wonderful in fantasy. My experience of submissive men leads me
to believe that they are generally high maintenance individuals.
I doubt I'd have the emotional capacity to manage a stable
myself. So you might find that your ideal woman will be, like
me, happy with the devoted service of one male.

>should she have lovers, I would count myself lucky to be
>allowed to serve her by cleaning up after them with my
>tongue...

Yes. You would indeed be lucky were such a privilege afforded to
you. But would you be as happy if she were to take lovers and
not want to use you for that service? She might like the freedom
to take lovers, I know I did. But she may not want to have that
freedom imposed upon by your fantasies.

>In my fantasies I would be broken and degraded by my mistress

You are very much like my David in your fantasies, and it's
fortunate that you recognise that reality will probably not be
like that. Like David you may find your Mistress is willing to
indulge you in that illusion at least some of the time. But in
truth a broken male is not much use to a woman.

Many of us like a strong male companion who is willing to submit
when we want him too.

>my pent up sexual desire became an overwhelming wave that ever
>increased her power and hold over me.

That part of your fantasy is both achievable and fun. I think
you'll find quite a few women would like the male "pent up and
panting with desire" element of this lifestyle, once they
realise that it doesn't have to also mean the man pestering for
attention and his own gratification.

>I ordered, I believe, every video available from Christine and
>David

There are only five, so if you have five you have them all.

>While I have to admit that on the PC Screen the videos were a
>little dark and at times hard to make out, when I put them onto
>the TV, they were fine. In terms of content however - they were
>p-h-e-n-o-m-e-n-a-l !

It's probably because we go to such lengths on the video
description page to make it clear that the quality of
reproduction is less than perfect, that we don't get negative
feedback. Fortunately we bought a card for the PC when they
first came out, and I converted the old tapes to digital before
the video tapes became totally unwatchable.

We agree with you, we've rented a lot of videos in our time, and
in terms of content we've never see anything as realistic or
enjoyable as the videos we made ourselves. I think the reason
for that is that nobody else is likely to have followed the same
somewhat accidental procedure I explain below.

>I loved watching the stories play out, the action in them was
>mind blowing

Most of the "action" as you put it was filmed spontaneously when
I was in the mood for playing to camera. The action wasn't
filmed for the purpose of making a commercial video, but just
for our pleasure at recording our fun.

Back when we bought our video camera, they were quite new, and
looked like something a TV station might use, especially when it
was sat on one's shoulder. Such a big camera in the corner of
the room might tend to ruin an atmosphere.

So I'd tell David how and where I wanted the video camera set
up, atop a table, or on a dressing table in the bedroom for
example, and all I had to do was turn it on when I felt like
filming something kinky that we were doing as we went about or
"normal" lives. The camera might sit there for a few days until
I was next in the mood for playing.

Often the result was taped over because what came out on the
recording was not as good as we'd like and not even worth
keeping.

When we liked the result enough, we'd copy it on to our "to
keep" tapes. It was when we were discussing how awful the movies
we rented were, that we tossed around the idea of selling our
own. David felt that we had to give them a story line in order
to sell them. So I gave him the task of writing the ideas for
link scenes which would stitch the action together in a story
which would be at least a little bit credible. Or sound like
something we could sell as a "film".

>I could feel a reality to proceedings that you don't tend to
>get elsewhere.

That may be because you end up seeing a mix of fact and fiction,
and because we are having fun. Although even the fiction scenes
only got filmed at my leisure, when I was in the mood for them,
and often I changed the story on the fly to suit my mood or
because I didn't like what David had scripted. So that tended to
provoke a reality because often David doesn't know what is going
to happen next, and sometimes nor do I :-)

The reality is perhaps also what you describe as the "action"
sequences. The story lines are of course not very close to
reality at all.

>if Ms Christine ever ordered me into her bathtub... I'd be
>there in a shot!

Bear in mind it's more fun for some women if you at least look
like it's a bit of a punishment. :-)

>my humble apologies for the length, and rambling of my own
>email Ms Christine!

The length was fine, and you were totally coherent. Just the way
I like my men, before I reduce them to stuttering wimps.. ;-)

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

See Christine and David on video.

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C: The Lady's not for twittering
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:12:11 +0100


Hello,

I replied to the sender of one of those spam invites from one of
those:-

Book_a_ Twit_Sit_on_My_Face_Fill_a_Space_Get_a_Life web sites.

As usual I told the person sending the "invitation" that I had
better things to do with my time.

I suggested that DOMestic which has now been going for 13 years
provides plenty of ways to stay in contact with everyone in this
community and/or me. It also does this without sending spam to
anybody in your address book.

I received an apology which made two key points that I felt the
need to reply to...

1. They hadn't sent the invite. It was because their address
book had been hacked.

2. MsChristine dot com is "only" for femdommes and their slaves.

Both those points are plain wrong.

In answer to (1):-

Your address was not hacked. It's in the small print. You
specifically agree to it when you sign up for one of these so
called social networking sites. Your address book is
incorporated into their system and everybody in your address
book gets at least one spam message. Many of these sites keep
pestering your address book, and in our case at DOMestic we just
respond to this by blacklisting the senders so that all mail
from them goes into junk mail thereafter.

One benefit of DOMestic not sending out email addresses of the
folk who post here is that it makes it most unlikely that one of
these twitterers will have your address in their address book to
send the spam to.

In answer to (2):-

"Only FemDom"?

That's not what it says anywhere on the DOMestic site, and I
have constantly reiterated that this is not the case every time
anybody says that on DOMestic. The list description and welcome
message says otherwise.

I quote from.... the "welcome.txt" file which you can read at

http://u4ds.com/admin/posting/

where it has said the following for the last thirteen years...

"The moderators primary interest is FemDom, so it is likely that
the list will attract this kind of post. But we are open minded
and like to read about other variations of dom-sub. Male
dominants and female submissives are welcome
to participate."

Also at:-

http://u4ds.com/

Note the key words include "and":-

"DOMestic Bdsm and Female Domination"

"Domination, Submission, Sexual and Sadomasochistic Role Play
for Loving Couples."

Now, to return to the matter of those:-

Book_a_ Twit_Sit_on_My_Face_Fill_a_Space_Get_a_Life web sites

To paraphrase a well known political comment in the UK.

"You twitter if you want to. The Lady's not for twittering!"

DOMestic is not for twits and if you think you can say anything
serious and worthwhile in less that 140 characters, you are
probably wrong and it's usually not worth reading or hearing.

But perhaps it is the short attention span of "twitterers" that
causes these very same folk to not read the conditions or
welcome messages when they sign up to DOMestic, or indeed when
they join any of these so called social networking web sites.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Twenty-six
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:28:43 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson


Part Twenty-six

Karin paused to run her hands over her body for a few
moments, maintaining her state of arousal as she
planned each sadistic step. "I am sure you realise that
I occasionally like a man to indulge me, shall we say
by penetrating me."

David's expectations soared and Karin continued. "I
would like you to be able to provide that service for
me....."

Karin paused deliberately, and David couldn't believe
his luck, his heart leapt with joy.

".......However it is difficult for this to be achieved
without you breaking rule two and probably rule
five......."

She left the statement hanging in the air. Just as
quickly his heart sank, where was she leading? How
could he make love to her without an erection?

".......It would be unfair of me to ask you to subject
yourself to severe punishments just to indulge my
occasional needs for penetration."

David was confused, was she going to let him or not? He
started to speak, he was going to suggest that he would
gladly suffer some punishment for the privilege she was
offering, "Madam....."

Karin swung her legs over the side of the bed,
"SILENCE!" she ordered. Pulling his head into her lap,
she proceeded to lace his head into a leather hood,
which she had been concealing. The hood had two
eyeholes surrounded by press studs, two vents for
breathing through the nostrils, and a large hole for
the mouth, also surrounded by press studs. Karin held
his head between her thighs as she laced the hood
tightly until it fitted like a second skin.

David breathed in the scent of her, between her thighs,
as he wondered just what she was planning. How would a
hood solve the problem she had been teasing him with?

"Time for a demonstration," she announced, as she
forced a rubber plug into his mouth for him to bite on.
A leather mouth cover held the plug in place, and Karin
fastened it with the press studs. Most peculiar of all,
was that on the outside was a six inch black latex
dildo, which now projected out from his mouth.

Karin continued her explanation, "Now that has shut you
up! You will observe that I am holding a blindfold,
which I can fit over your eyes in the same manner as I
fitted that gag. So behave yourself!"

David nodded, and felt the dildo bouncing up and down
in front of him. Through the eyeholes his vision was
distorted, but there was no mistaking what that was
projecting in front of him.

Karin snapped, "There is no need to nod! I will tell
you if I expect a reply! You will also observe the
beautifully shaped penis that I have provided you with.
Unlike your own, this one does not spurt all over the
place, and it stays hard!"

It suddenly became clear to David. How bitter the gall
he swallowed, how could she lead him on so, and then
deliver such a sadistic blow?

"Using my riding crop I am going to train you to 'use
your head', as they say. In time, you will on command
thrust in and out, or move your jaws on the bit between
your teeth, to stimulate me. All in response to
commands from my crop. Now however, Just for tonight,
lie on your back on the bed."


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