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From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:54:26 +0000

Mistress and her maid - part five
First part is at:- Wonderful visit - Mistress and her maid

The maid had been directed not to relieve herself during
masturbation from the Monday to the Wednesday when she would
next be before her owner. Madam had decided her maid would be
milked on her next visit, it was expected to be a full half day
of service with milking mid afternoon and then time spent still
as a maid before leaving.

The maid was to be trained to be a sissy to ladies post orgasm.
Madam had determined her maid would have wider use when on loan
to mature ladies if the maid could be trained to continue in
service after an orgasm, this would allow for continuing
housework, companionship or even additional sexual use and in
particular, oral services.

Madam changed the usual schedule for the day with the maid being
required to arrive in Madam's suburb and wait for reporting
until summoned by sms message.

The maid was summoned and reported as her owner stepped from her
car and walked to the front gate. The maid quickly opened the
gate and front door of Madam's home, dropping to her owner's
feet to kiss her shoes as sign of submission and then kneeling
to kiss the location of Madam's trouser covered pussy as a sign
of respect. The three step procedure had been used for many
years to greet her owner when they were alone.

The maid followed the Mistress to the lounge, poured his owner a
glass of red wine, lit her cigarette and then whilst his owner
rested, the sissy maid went off and started the cleaning of the
dungeons and vacuuming the hallway.

As part of the maid's dungeon work she removed all the toys from
the corner shelves, and cleaned each one of the anal toys,
vibrators, eggs, large and small. The maid also found an
attachment electrically powered that fitted around a cock to
vibrate and enhance the feel of excitement. She cleaned them
all, placed them on the shelves, located a number of strap-on
harnesses, including her owners which received an extra special
cleaning. It was his owners to use on her sissy as she wanted
to.

The maid quickly completed the cleaning of both dungeons and
vacuumed the hall. Before dressing in the maid's winter uniform
including suspenders, stockings, slips, camisole and blouse,
with high heels, make up and wig, but as always no panties.. the
maid was vulnerable at all times.

After spending time chatting to Madam and the household it was
inspection time for Madam, including of her sissy maid's clit,
and to read the report from the last visit. As Madam sat on the
high chair sipping her wine, her maid was as always required to
raise her skirt and display her Mistress' property - which had
not been emptied for many days.

The maid was now ordered to masturbate so her owner could make
sure the clit was functioning, erect and capable of use by
ladies in any way they might want. As the maid sat and stroked
her now large clit, Madam ordered the sissy to place the cock
clip vibrator around her sissy's now large and erect clit, but
to also after a while place a condom on the sissy clit. Madam
would use the remote control to increase the maid's erection as
the sissy masturbated.

Today the sissy was to milk in front of his owner on command.
After some twenty minutes of masturbation, her owner was
enjoying the sight of the sissy clit she now owned being milked.
On command the maid orgasmed. filling the condom, much to her
owner's smiles and pleasure to see so much cum from a large and
owned sissy clit.

After the sissy had cum, her owner continued to use the
vibrating control on her maid.

Unfortunately it was time for the sissy to now leave. The sissy
thanked her Mistress, changed and left to wait until she was
summoned again.

Had the maid not run out of time the maid was now certain that
with either a little restraint after the orgasm, and some short
companionship, the maid could have walked back into the
household with the condom still in place and in uniform for some
relaxation time for half an hour or more.

Perhaps having Madam later remove, or cut the tip of the condom,
to remove the contents, placing the liquid in her hand to be
placed drop by drop via her fingers on the nipples of her
breasts for her maid to lick clean.

This would be a special occasion and one that should be special
with special memories of the first time the maid would drink her
cum from her Mistress. It would also be fitting, as the maids
cum, including every drop, was now owned by her Mistress. This
would be a treat for a serving period of a few hours to ensure
the maid, post cum, was interested in moving onwards.

A little bit of time in uniform between cumming and licking the
liquid milk from the tip of her Mistress' nipples, drop by drop,
would be a very found memory for the Mistress.

The droplets would serve as both a reminder of the sissy's need
to drink cum when required, but with the symbol of drinking it
from her Mistress' breast showing the power of a woman's breast
and how they are used to train sissies and nurture males and
females - the symbol of submission of drinking cum with the
symbol of a Mistress' milk.

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 21 Aug 2009 18:25:37 -0000
From: Sensual Femdom

j_stimmt-

In general, penis plugs are safer than urethral sounds. That is
because sounds descend much farther down the urethra (closer to
the bladder). Also, the sounds have some weight to them. I
wouldn't say they are heavy, but they are solid. If not held the
entire time they can drop down too far. Many sounds, however,
have a ribbed area to prevent this.

Any time you engage in urethral play there is some risk of
infection. You must be careful to be safe! Sterilize the penis
plug (or sounds) prior to use. While boiling can eliminate most
of the bacteria, the only way to truly sterilize it is by using
a pressure cooker. Great instructions here:

chaseunion.com/documents/safety/sterile3.htm

When using your plug or sound, use lots and lots of lube. There
is no such thing as using too much lube! Put a good amount of
lube on the end of your penis, and coat your plug (or sound) in
it as well. A great lube is Surgilube, which is very thick as
well as sterile.

After I use sounds on j I have him drink a glass or two of
cranberry juice. The acidity in the juice helps prevent the
bacteria from growing in the bladder.

Regarding your wife's comfort level, with any luck that will
grow in time. Using sounds and plugs is something that is not
for everyone, but I have grown to love the control I have over j
during our urethral play.

Feel free to contact me through my blog - click on my profile.
You can email me through it.

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 21 Aug 2009 19:40:09 -0000
From: Dale

I have used urethral inserts for many years without problems. I
have plugs, sounds, catheters, and other devices designed for
such play... and advise anyone to never use anything not
designed for such activity.

Stretching a urethral opening is not the same as stretching an
anus... the urethral opening is NOT a sphincter... it is merely
an opening. It must be stretched VERY slowly over a long time or
it will tear (no fun). However, the urethra itself (the tube
inside the penis) is very stretchy and will handle much larger
sizes than the opening.

I rarely use a sterile lube. For a long time I did, but after a
while just started using saliva. I know all the caveats about
infections, etc., but the simple fact is... the urethra pretty
much clears itself out. As long as you are healthy and have good
oral hygiene, it's likely you won't have a problem. After all,
when you're sucked off, a saliva-filled mouth is right there,
no?

My wife enjoys doing this to me, too. While she doesn't like it
done to her, she does like to insert sounds and plugs in me;
likes "fucking" my cock with them; likes sucking me off while my
dick is filled this way; and likes the visual and mental
stimulation of the play.

Bleeding could be caused from too-rough action at first, but
careful regular play will toughen up the urethra. I am quite
capable of jerking off with sounds or plugs in my cock and the
feeling is wonderful. I especially enjoy a deep sound, one that
is into my prostate, as the stimulation there is incredible and
the resultant orgasm is very intense.

Sometimes, she will use a quite large plug - big enough to
prevent the escape of the ejaculate - and "trap" the cum
inside... very erotic, though slightly painful (which is the
point, no?)

The cock, balls, and urethra can all take far more "abuse" than
we expect... as long as it is carefully administered. Cock
slapping, ball punching, dick fucking... pinching, twisting,
tying... they will take them all and smile the whole time!

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 21 Aug 2009 21:09:46 -0000
From: d_brenn

Urine itself is sterile, and even highly nutritious. We consider
it waste, but some cultures bathe in it as an antiseptic, or
even drink it. Trapped urine should not cause infection. But do
drink plenty of fluids and keep it moving.

A UTI (urinary tract infection) could only be caused by
introducing bacteria into the tract, either by an insufficiently
sterilized toy, or by contact of the toy with bacteria near the
opening of the penis, just inside the opening, or outside on the
surface. So clean that penis before playing, and rinse out the
opening a bit.

The bleeding you experienced from use of the cotton swab (ouch!)
was likely the cotton's abrasion of the sensitive tissues of the
urethra. These tissues are designed for contact only with
liquids! But if you use a smooth insertable, such as a sound or
a plug which doesn't stretch too much, you should not have much
of this problem.

If there is a drop of blood or two, don't be too alarmed, it
likely just means you've abraded some tissue a little too much.
Allow some time for it to heal and try to be gentler next time.
A small amount of pink mucus is likely to be expected,
especially if you penetrate into the bladder with the urethral
sound. (Be extremely careful and slow if you go that deep.)

Since you are introducing objects from the outside into the
body, and disturbing cell membranes in the process, there is a
risk of infection. After any urethral play, drink plenty of
liquid so that you'll urinate heavily to flush out that tract
with good sterile urine. Cranberry juice and such are excellent
for urinary health.

Try not to use petroleum-based lubricants such as vaseline or
bacitracin. They are better than nothing, but are really meant
for external use. When used internally, they will stick to your
innards and not flush out quickly enough to be consistent with
good health.

Do not hesitate to see a doctor if there is any sign of a
Urinary Tract Infection, since these can be very dangerous.
Certain antibiotics such as doxycycline are especially good for
UTI's since they concentrate in the urine.

Be aware that it is very unusual for a man to contract a UTI
without engaging in something like anal sex, or being
catheterized in the hospital, or engaging in urethral play.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 26 Aug 2009 17:42:52 -0000
From: kink marshall

Back in the mid eighties, there was a Mistress Nathalie, I
believe was her name..., who published a 300 page or so Slave
handbook. It was a 8 1/2' x 11" paper back. She and a few of her
female friend had husband slaves.

Mistress Nathalie put together this manual that included
pictures, examples, games and contests they played, etc. It was
not a high quality manual (as an example, the pictures were not
high quality), but the contents were awesome.

I believe they were from Michigan or Wisconsin. Does anyone
remember this publication, and better yet, does anyone have a
copy they would like to sell!

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 26 Aug 2009 17:50:26 -0000
From: kink marshall

I think we have a good thing started here, with the games and
contests. Another contest I thought of which might be similar to
Lauren5pnts spear throw, is to have all the slaves line up in a
row on their knees, and be made to jerk off.

There would be two losers, the one who came too fast and the one
who took too long. The perfect scenario would be if there were
only two contestants.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:29:00 +0100

Hello,

kink marshall wrote:

>There would be two losers, the one who came too fast and the
>one who took too long.

Excellent game and lots of fun could be had with variations of
it. I always think it's best if men are made to "pay for their
pleasure" with corporal punishment. So, long before the game
started, I'd like to have established what the punishment each
slave feared the most was.

Of course I'd then be able to ensure they knew they would get it
for failure when the game started. Otherwise, if he was a pain
slut, he might rush to be the one who came first so as to try
and get two treats. Although it's unlikely to be a problem as
it's been my experience that men rarely enjoy corporal
punishment immediately after ejaculation.

Also I'd lecture them on the importance of "letting go" of their
cocks the very instant such an order is given, and that the
Mistresses would use their riding crops on the balls for the
slowest to let go. (you'll see why later)

>The perfect scenario would be if there were only two
>contestants.

Even better, at least I think it would be a lot more amusing to
watch, would be three contestants. As one or all of them would
likely work out that all they had to do was wait for the first
one to fail and then rush to a finish to be "home and dry"
(excuse the pun).

They would all be trying their hardest not to be first, and no
sooner than one of them is being punished for being the loser,
the other two are already rushing to try and ejaculate before
each other.

The supervision of several Mistresses would be essential if
punishment is going to be administered to one while the other
two are still playing. Either that or the two remaining would
have to be instructed to "let go" and wait until the punishment
of the first is over and done with.

When the game resumes, imagine the frustration of the one who
thinks he is "coming" second if, just as his ejaculation started
to boil over, he is told to "let go". (men do seem to hate
having to let go at that critical moment :-)

He could then be informed that the enforced "letting go during
climax" is reserved for men who are "too clever by half". He
might then wish he'd been brave enough to be first which would
have allowed him to have, and pay for, a more fulfilling spurt.
Making him let go should be enforced by slapping his hand away
with a riding crop.

Also, it is possible that the two who were remaining would
likely have been so worked up that they would both find it all
too easy to be pretty quick. So even more frustrating would be
to find it was a draw, and as they were both last, they both get
the punishment for being last as well as having endured the "let
go" treatment.

sincerely, Christine

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C: collared DOMestic old timer AtcherServis
From: PapaHertz
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:56:59 EDT

Hello from an old time member of DOMestic, as I recall it used
to be called.

I no sooner celebrated my 'collaring' by a Mistress I met on
DOMestic, who returned to 'claim' me after eight years away from
the BDSM scene, by giving her the correct addie to return to
this site than what do I see? Subbie games!

It is ALL I can do to service her twice a week without having
her read of all these 'demeaning', humiliating, degrading,
games!

[don't get wrong ideas; 'service' is doing "whatever pleases
HER." Yes, there are some things she has me do that are sexual
in nature, not to be repeated here, T.Y. very much]

To make it worse, I've been negotiating to meet another
'couple', if that's the correct term, from LA whose Mistress is
very stern, I've been led to believe.

As I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
California,] a fact which my Mistress is proud to proclaim [she
is sensitive to my shortcomings due to my age, though I ask her
to please try whatever she'd like and I will code 'yellow' if I
have a problem,] I cannot see me competing in these salacious
games, thought up by perverts hard for me to believe occupy
places in the BDSM universe, however, I will try if asked by
Mistress and, who knows, I might surprise a few of you
youngsters.

[Please be advised ALL of the above about other members was
written 'tongue in cheek', a good resting place for a slave's
most valuable tool (LOL.) Also, I believe it's the LAST thing to
wear out on a man. (VEG).]

I am delighted to be back 'where I belong' and to be owned by
such a lovely lady. It took me long years to learn to say,
"Whatever pleases you, Mistress." We broke up years ago when I
was too ignorant to say those very words, which Mistress had
read in a book, and which she just wanted to hear me say.

I'd signed a contract giving her all those rights and I had my
'lawyer hat' on, one I've learned NOT to wear in any femdom's
presence. I learned the HARD way, by the way. But then I could
not understand why she didn't just accept the words in the
contract I'd drafted so carefully.

Last [do I hear sighs of relief?] Mistress found her copy of
DOMestic's CD on 'training a man' or whatever you call it. She
was about to lend it to me when I told her I'd prefer to be
surprised. [Really I feared losing sleep over some of the things
you advise a woman to do with her slave.]

In closing [this is REALLY it! Hear the trumpets?] I must say I
feel 20 years younger since Mistress took possession of me! And
I am convinced my ten years living a BDSM life has made me feel,
if not truly BE, 20 years younger than the 79 years of age I'll
have achieved this November.

Respectfully, S.A.M. also known as PapaHertz, though you may
recall me here as 'AtcherServis', not a nik, a promise!

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Re: C: Dominatrix Leslie
From: PapaHertz
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:35:43 EDT

Leslie Olsen wrote:

>I am a dominatrix. I have been into this since 2004. I'm
>excited to be a part of the group!

welcome Ms Leslie:

May I inquire if you reside in SoCal, now a hotbed of BDSM
activity? If not, where do you practice your domination, if I
may ask?

T Y Mistress
PapaHertz aka AtcherServis, not a NK, a promise

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Re: C: boy - you're really in for it now
From: PapaHertz
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:03:22 EDT

james wrote:

>because the program will be used by my Mistress, I soon
>relinquished it to her view. She was absolutely glued to the
>monitor for well over an hour. She then stood up and with a
>huge grin remarked "boy - you're really in for it now."

Dear James:

FWIW [for what it's worth,] my Mistress got the CD from Ms
Christine when she was first on DOMestic 8 years ago. She just
came back to BDSM life, looked me up, and now I'm collared to
her. She was going to lend me the CD, but I said I was afraid
I'd lose sleep worrying about what she'll try next. Hence, the
quote at the top of this email. I hope never to hear those words
from Mistress's lips.

james wrote:

>She is especially interested in understanding the aspects of
>the use of toilet training. I don't know what to think.

Speaking of toilet training, many women have large capacity
bladders. So if it's a question of taking her urine, about which
she wants to train you, I'd be careful to ask her to bottle it,
and feed it to you. I always made the statement, and have lived
to regret it, to a woman who proposed letting me have her Golden
Nectars, "I like to drink from the faucet."

Despite a wide funnel in my mouth which a lady used to evacuate,
or void, as the clinical statements go, the lady over-filled the
funnel and dribbled copious quantities of her 'golden wine' over
me. Fortunately, I was in the shower at the time. The lady
allowed me to shower off the excess. I confess I had a hard time
ingesting an entire funnel full into my mouth and then
swallowing it.

Fortunately, the lady was very clean. Her urine was tasteless,
and colorless. I've drunk a cup of urine, or two, from women who
are very salty and bitter. All in a day's slavery, I must say.

That said, imbibing anything from a Mistress who has taken you
in hand and captured you for her pleasure, can be a very
rewarding experience.

Another Mistress dubbed me T.P. so that I knew when she shouted
for T.P. I was to hurry to her wash room and go to my knees for
whatever Mistress's pleasure was.

One thing. I've seen innumerable movie clips where a woman will
first rub her anus against her male, then her vagina, asking him
to lick either or both. The health books all advise not to go to
the vagina after touching, licking, or otherwise 'mouthing' the
anus. There can be innumerable infectious matter in the anus,
which under no circumstances should be put next to, or worse,
into the vagina.

One way around this is to restrict, with Mistress's permission,
of course, anal play to the slave's nose, saving the lips and
mouth for cleaning or otherwise servicing the Mistress's vaginal
area. Clips are fun to look at, IMHO [in my humble opinion,] but
should never be taken as illustrating acceptable real practices
between a Mistress and her slave.

With that, I wish you luck, James, in your lady's endeavors to
give you toilet training. Try to look at it as but another way
in which to serve your Mistress, thereby indicating how much she
values your services. Works for me.

Atcherservis, not a NK, a promise! aka s.a.m.

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Re: C: collared DOMestic old timer AtcherServis
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:24:43 +0100

Hello,

PapaHertz with lots of names wrote:

>DOMestic, as I recall it used to be called.

What do you mean? DOMestic is still called DOMestic, the list,
and now the blog, have always been called DOMestic, and we've no
plans on ever changing it.

I would address you by name, but it's hard to communicate with a
man with so many names. :-) Which of your own multiple names is
your preferred "moniker"?

>'collaring' by a Mistress I met on DOMestic, who returned to
>'claim' me after eight years away from the BDSM scene

Congratulations! May I be nosey and enquire whether you are now
living as a couple? Don't feel obliged to respond, just my
curiosity.

>by giving her the correct addie to return to this site

I note you had trouble finding the correct address before (back
in 2003) when you tried to use DOMestic dot com to find us. That
is a bank and has never been our domain, unfortunately.

Perhaps you were making the same mistake this time?

>I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
>California,] -snip- I am delighted to be back 'where I belong'
>and to be owned by such a lovely lady -snip- I feel 20 years
>younger -snip- than the 79 years of age I'll have achieved
>this November.

So perhaps a scorpio too? Glad to hear that life is treating you
so well. Do we have any bdsm'ers in SoCal who were born before
November 1930 I wonder?

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

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From: PapaHertz
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:56:59 EDT

Hello from an old time member of DOMestic, as I recall it used
to be called.

I no sooner celebrated my 'collaring' by a Mistress I met on
DOMestic, who returned to 'claim' me after eight years away from
the BDSM scene, by giving her the correct addie to return to
this site than what do I see? Subbie games!

It is ALL I can do to service her twice a week without having
her read of all these 'demeaning', humiliating, degrading,
games!

[don't get wrong ideas; 'service' is doing "whatever pleases
HER." Yes, there are some things she has me do that are sexual
in nature, not to be repeated here, T.Y. very much]

To make it worse, I've been negotiating to meet another
'couple', if that's the correct term, from LA whose Mistress is
very stern, I've been led to believe.

As I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
California,] a fact which my Mistress is proud to proclaim [she
is sensitive to my shortcomings due to my age, though I ask her
to please try whatever she'd like and I will code 'yellow' if I
have a problem,] I cannot see me competing in these salacious
games, thought up by perverts hard for me to believe occupy
places in the BDSM universe, however, I will try if asked by
Mistress and, who knows, I might surprise a few of you
youngsters.

[Please be advised ALL of the above about other members was
written 'tongue in cheek', a good resting place for a slave's
most valuable tool (LOL.) Also, I believe it's the LAST thing to
wear out on a man. (VEG).]

I am delighted to be back 'where I belong' and to be owned by
such a lovely lady. It took me long years to learn to say,
"Whatever pleases you, Mistress." We broke up years ago when I
was too ignorant to say those very words, which Mistress had
read in a book, and which she just wanted to hear me say.

I'd signed a contract giving her all those rights and I had my
'lawyer hat' on, one I've learned NOT to wear in any femdom's
presence. I learned the HARD way, by the way. But then I could
not understand why she didn't just accept the words in the
contract I'd drafted so carefully.

Last [do I hear sighs of relief?] Mistress found her copy of
DOMestic's CD on 'training a man' or whatever you call it. She
was about to lend it to me when I told her I'd prefer to be
surprised. [Really I feared losing sleep over some of the things
you advise a woman to do with her slave.]

In closing [this is REALLY it! Hear the trumpets?] I must say I
feel 20 years younger since Mistress took possession of me! And
I am convinced my ten years living a BDSM life has made me feel,
if not truly BE, 20 years younger than the 79 years of age I'll
have achieved this November.

Respectfully, S.A.M. also known as PapaHertz, though you may
recall me here as 'AtcherServis', not a nik, a promise!

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C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 15 Aug 2009 19:02:30 -0000
From: j_stimmt

Hello,

I recently mail-ordered a penis plug and my queen has agreed to
use it on me this weekend as a birthday treat in combination
with severely administered spankings from her riding crop.

My only prior experience with urethral play was when I was
masturbating as a teenager and used some lubricant and a Q-tip.
I didn't really know what I was doing at the time and for added
effect, I strapped a rubber band around my cock.

A day later, blood was coming out of my urethra and I was
totally freaked out.

So, it's with some trepidation that I venture back into this
type of play with my beloved queen. I know to sterilize the plug
with rubbing alcohol before using it and to use a water-soluble
lubricant for easier insertion.

I am also fearing that my queen/wife will get freaked and change
her mind about doing this.

Anyone else out there have experiences with / suggestions about
urethral play?

Thanks,
j_stimmt

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 19 Aug 2009 00:31:31 -0000
From: Sensual Femdom

I engage in some urethral play with my submissive husband, j.

I ordered a penis plug for him several years ago, but was
disappointed when I was unable to get it in. Some time after
that I ordered a set of urethral sounds, which I use on j fairly
regularly. I must admit that initially I used the sounds with
quite a bit of trepidation, as I was fearful of causing serious
physical harm. With careful use, however, they are pretty safe.
You may want to consider using a sterile lubricant. Stockroom
and most D/s sites sell it.

j experiences very strong sensations when I use the sounds on
him, and though his urethra is still too narrow for the penis
plug, I am sure that one day I will have it stretched out
enough.

I have blogged about this in the past. Feel free to check those
posts out. Let me know if you have any questions, and have fun!

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 19 Aug 2009 03:06:53 -0000
From: j_stimmt

Sensual Femdom,

Thanks for your reply. Interesting about the penis plug being
too big for your husband's urethra. The one I ordered was a
"starter" plug, designed to penetrate, but not to stretch so
much. My assumption is that one gradually increases the
thickness of the plug over time until larger ones can be used.

But... I read somewhere online - the exact reference escapes me
now - that stretching the urethra too much can cause a urinary
tract infection because after the play is done, urinating can
cause small amounts of urine to be trapped inside a pocket
created by the stretching and then causes bacteria to grow (I
tried to find the original weblink for this claim, but was
unable). Anyway, this freaks me out a little, but my involvement
is not nearly as intense as the thickness of what I imagine a
sound might be.

BTW, my wife did freak out when it came down to using the plug.
Beforehand, she expressed her fears and we decided that she
would "order" me to insert the plug in myself. After I did this,
she asked me to take it out because she felt she could not go on
with the scene - it was scaring her too much.

I offered to show her some of my research online - there are a
couple of doctors who have written small articles on the safe
use of penis plugs.

Any other suggestions on what I can do to help her feel more
comfortable with this type of play?

She doesn't seem to have a problem with snapping a clothespin on
the end of my cock, it's just the penetration part that she has
trouble with.

j_stimmt

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 13 Aug 2009 18:48:37 -0000
From: kink marshall

slaveboy wrote:

>I for one would love to hear ideas, as well as what "events"
>you are going to.

The two events that Mistress signed us up for is Sacramento
Heat, a 2 day, 2 night BDSM event here in Central California.
The other is a local group who gets together monthly. This will
be our first time.

One "contest" that has alway intrigued me is a tug of war,
between two slaves. A single rope is tied to each slaves balls,
a line is made between them, and the tug starts. A Mistress
could spur them on with a cane or paddle, to help their slave
win. I am not sure what kind of damage could be done... it may
not be safe. But, I have a picture in my files that i have had
for years showing that kind of contest.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 14 Aug 2009 23:17:53 -0000
From: Michael Moran

Catch and release is a game that a few of my lifestyle friends
invented.

Here in the midwest, we spend a lot of time out at the Forest
Preserve. One day, a couple of the girls were sitting around,
talking about inventing some new pastime they could enjoy.

The game has been one of those games that they have been adding
new rules to all the time.

On the outskirts of this Forest Preserve there is a two mile
cinder paved, bike path that winds around the lake and deep into
the woods.

This is a game played after midnight, after the Forest Preserve
is closed to the public, both ends of this path has public
access from near by side roads.

At one end of the path, a naked male sub is told he has one half
hour to make it to the other end of the trail, without being
caught, or seen.

After a five minute head start, a team of 3 girls are placed on
the same trail in pursuit.

While at the meantime, another team of three girls are placed in
pursuit at the far end of the trail.

The male sub, must elude both teams and make it to his
destination, or he has lost his ride home.

If one of the teams capture the sub, they are the winners who
take him home with them for one week, to remain in their
service, before earning his clothes back, on the day he is
released.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 16 Aug 2009 02:25:55 -0000
From: Lauren5Pts

In the late 90's, an author named Tigger created "The Cabal"
universe. The Cabal was a large lifestyle organization, and one
of the things they did was to hold _Domination Games_ (DG), the
title of a story Tigger wrote.

The DG subjected volunteer female (for this story's timeframe
and plot line) slaves to contests that included Musical Chairs
(slaves must impale themselves on plugs and dildos affixed to
stools), 100 Yard Dash (while holding the stools in place by
their anal muscles), Spear Throw (jerking off male slaves), and
Knife Fight (using dildos with handles - points for insertion in
any orifice, win for inducing an orgasm).

Tigger's stories are available from several TG Fiction sites.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 18 Aug 2009 19:43:58 -0000
From: slaveboy

kink marshall wrote:

>"The two events that Mistress signed us up for is Sacramento
>Heat, a 2 day, 2 night BDSM event here in Central California."

Thanks. Good Luck!

>"One "contest" that has alway intrigued me is a tug of war,
>between two slaves. A single rope is tied to each slaves
>balls, a line is made between them, and the tug starts. A
>Mistress could spur them on with a cane or paddle, to help
>their slave win. I am not sure what kind of damage could be
>done... it may not be safe. But, I have a picture in my files
>that i have had for years showing that kind of contest."

Mmmm... that is a delicious contest to imagine, but alas would
most likely cause damage unless it was done very cautiously.

On the other hand, it would be a little safer if the whole
package and not just the balls were tied up. Annnd, maybe tieing
with something that has some elasticity would (possibly) make it
do-able. (If not it would still be an entertaining game even if
the slaves were attached at another place)

I believe my Mistress would find it amusing to watch either way.

I cannot imagine how humbling it would be to be signed up for a
game at an event that offered many different contests. Mistress
takes you, tells you to keep quiet and goes about entering you
in whatever games amuse her. Can't wait to ask her if she would
like that if given the chance :-)

Going crazy as I'm into my 9th week of chastity... felt like I
was going to get angry on Sunday afternoon, but it faded by
night time after some needed attitude adjustments.

Catch and release game sounded great also.

ChastityHeaven

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C: Mistress and her maid - part four
From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:24:30 +0000

Mistress and her maid - part four

the maid was summoned to report and prepare the dungeons for use
by Mistress Genevieve

Dungeons cleaned, one converted to a school room and toilets
cleaned. Uniform worn was red apron and sheer see through black
panties only.

Mistress Ayla's champagne was chilled, with the maid dressing in
uniform and waiting Madam's return - due to Madam Ayla's late
return the maid waited dressed for one and a half hours, then
changed back to street wear.

Madam returned, maid served drinks, followed Madam to dungeon
for inspection and foot worship of Madam - as maid was bent over
the bench and ordered to lower trousers and underwear for use of
the cane by his Mistress, 6 strokes were applied.

The maid reported for service the following afternoon to clean
house and prepare for Mistress Genevieve to use.

maid wore the summer formal uniform.

maid dressed Mistress Genevieve for her session, served drinks
to her Mistress in mixed company and sat with her Mistress
whilst she waited and listened to Mistress Genevieve conducting
her training.

wendy on this day, was again denied an orgasm even though he sat
next to her owner.

After household inspection the maid was placed over his
Mistress' knees, with her skirt raised, his punishment was a
spanking of over 300 caresses of Madam's hand, before Madam
reached for the cane to administer 8 strokes with it.

The maid was dismissed with no pleasure or relief, but with his
balls so full and him so needing relief, she was to be allowed
to use her Mistress' property and empty herself later that night
when alone - when she did there was a very large amount and it
seemed to take forever to finish.

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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty-five
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:41:33 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-five

Christine and Sadine were fascinated by the spectacle of
eroticism that now surrounded them. Marique and Madam Kwai
opposite each other, but consumed by their own climaxes, each
was ignorant of anything but David's scarlet writhing posterior.

Karin and Catrina were still facing each other over David. Karin
was concentrating intently on the task of administering the
cane. Catrina admiring the skill, the movement and impact. David
on top of Brian, both of them absorbing the force, David's
searing agony and Brian's humiliating discomfort.

Pippa and Adra were both acutely aware of the penalty for
failing, with the caning in the background to remind them. Both
of them were devoted utterly to providing pleasure.

Lastly 'Table' and 'Toilet', 'Table' aware of his Mistress'
pleasure, consumed with jealousy and the degradation of the
buzzing presence of the Vibrator. 'Toilet' confined in silence,
ignorant of everything but his continuing debasement.

Christine and Sadine were in the perfect position to appreciate
all of this, together with the memory of the ignominy that they
had just subjected 'Toilet' to.

Karin collapsed into her armchair when her duties were complete,
Marique and Madam Kwai had been satisfied.

Catrina whispered something to Karin and left the company. She
was now ready to fully appreciate the pleasure of using
'Toilet', and Sadine had said that she could do so at her
leisure.

As she left she asked Sadine to unlock David and Brian, and to
send David up to his room. "Cuff David's hands behind him
please, and do what you like with Brian," she suggested.

After David had been sent to his room, his hands now secured
behind his back, Karin turned on the video screen downstairs.
Catrina had suggested the idea, she was still in with the
'Toilet', but Karin told the assembled company that they could
expect to watch Catrina in action shortly.

Catrina was both an exhibitionist and a sadist. She was pleased
to have the opportunity to perform in a way that would satisfy
both desires.

Sadine settled Brian on his back at her feet, using his leather
covered genitals as her footrest. Her stiletto heels causing
both pain and stimulation. Male stimulation, she believed,
should always be as painful as possible.

Karin ordered Pippa to refresh everyone's drinks and then to
take up a standing position at her side.

Marique borrowed Sadine's idea and re-gagging Adra, had her lie
at her feet, using her breasts as cushions.

Christine opened her bag and took out her latest invention. She
sat on the sofa next to Madam Kwai and they went into a
conference about the items Christine was explaining.

Christine's Faradic device was a broad belt designed to strap
around the waist of a slave. The belt contained many batteries
similar to those used nowadays in instant camera film packs. The
unit was controlled by a remote radio control, somewhat like a
dimmer switch.

On this occasion the belt was linked to two expanding metal
bands, like expansion watch straps. One was designed to fit
behind the penis head, the other around the scrotum sack. When
the device is switched on, the electric current passes from one
strap to another. Both straps are switched to current receivers
if required, the current then passes from the belt, through the
lower torso to the genital straps.

As a Mistress becomes more experienced and skilful she can vary
the route and intensity of the current, thus she can subject her
slave to any level of pain or pleasure she desires. She can, if
she wishes, bring about an orgasm without pleasure, quickly or
slowly. She can bring about repeated climaxes without break for
rest, something which the male of the species often finds
nauseating. The scope for female amusement is virtually
limitless.

Christine was enthusiastic about one aspect particularly. The
ability to drain a slave without giving him gratification. "It's
long been recognised," she explained, "that for health reasons
the male needs to expel his ejaculate, or he suffers from a
condition known as blue balls, not to mention getting uppity.
The frequency varies, but once a week should more than suffice.
With this device the male can be regularly milked dry without
allowing any lust or disrespect, let alone pleasure."

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This story is one of over 400 stories you can read on the
DOMestic web site. For your password go to:
http://www.mschristine.com/domsub4.shtml

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posted by: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
posted on: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:41:33 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-five

Christine and Sadine were fascinated by the spectacle of
eroticism that now surrounded them. Marique and Madam Kwai
opposite each other, but consumed by their own climaxes, each
was ignorant of anything but David's scarlet writhing posterior.

Karin and Catrina were still facing each other over David. Karin
was concentrating intently on the task of administering the
cane. Catrina admiring the skill, the movement and impact. David
on top of Brian, both of them absorbing the force, David's
searing agony and Brian's humiliating discomfort.

Pippa and Adra were both acutely aware of the penalty for
failing, with the caning in the background to remind them. Both
of them were devoted utterly to providing pleasure.

Lastly 'Table' and 'Toilet', 'Table' aware of his Mistress'
pleasure, consumed with jealousy and the degradation of the
buzzing presence of the Vibrator. 'Toilet' confined in silence,
ignorant of everything but his continuing debasement.

Christine and Sadine were in the perfect position to appreciate
all of this, together with the memory of the ignominy that they
had just subjected 'Toilet' to.

Karin collapsed into her armchair when her duties were complete,
Marique and Madam Kwai had been satisfied.

Catrina whispered something to Karin and left the company. She
was now ready to fully appreciate the pleasure of using
'Toilet', and Sadine had said that she could do so at her
leisure.

As she left she asked Sadine to unlock David and Brian, and to
send David up to his room. "Cuff David's hands behind him
please, and do what you like with Brian," she suggested.

After David had been sent to his room, his hands now secured
behind his back, Karin turned on the video screen downstairs.
Catrina had suggested the idea, she was still in with the
'Toilet', but Karin told the assembled company that they could
expect to watch Catrina in action shortly.

Catrina was both an exhibitionist and a sadist. She was pleased
to have the opportunity to perform in a way that would satisfy
both desires.

Sadine settled Brian on his back at her feet, using his leather
covered genitals as her footrest. Her stiletto heels causing
both pain and stimulation. Male stimulation, she believed,
should always be as painful as possible.

Karin ordered Pippa to refresh everyone's drinks and then to
take up a standing position at her side.

Marique borrowed Sadine's idea and re-gagging Adra, had her lie
at her feet, using her breasts as cushions.

Christine opened her bag and took out her latest invention. She
sat on the sofa next to Madam Kwai and they went into a
conference about the items Christine was explaining.

Christine's Faradic device was a broad belt designed to strap
around the waist of a slave. The belt contained many batteries
similar to those used nowadays in instant camera film packs. The
unit was controlled by a remote radio control, somewhat like a
dimmer switch.

On this occasion the belt was linked to two expanding metal
bands, like expansion watch straps. One was designed to fit
behind the penis head, the other around the scrotum sack. When
the device is switched on, the electric current passes from one
strap to another. Both straps are switched to current receivers
if required, the current then passes from the belt, through the
lower torso to the genital straps.

As a Mistress becomes more experienced and skilful she can vary
the route and intensity of the current, thus she can subject her
slave to any level of pain or pleasure she desires. She can, if
she wishes, bring about an orgasm without pleasure, quickly or
slowly. She can bring about repeated climaxes without break for
rest, something which the male of the species often finds
nauseating. The scope for female amusement is virtually
limitless.

Christine was enthusiastic about one aspect particularly. The
ability to drain a slave without giving him gratification. "It's
long been recognised," she explained, "that for health reasons
the male needs to expel his ejaculate, or he suffers from a
condition known as blue balls, not to mention getting uppity.
The frequency varies, but once a week should more than suffice.
With this device the male can be regularly milked dry without
allowing any lust or disrespect, let alone pleasure."

Part Thirty-six is at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/09/bank_managers_cupboard_36.shtml

This story is one of over 400 stories you can read on the
DOMestic web site. For your password go to:

http://www.mschristine.com/domsub4.shtml

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Date: 15 Aug 2009 19:02:30 -0000
From: j_stimmt

Hello,

I recently mail-ordered a penis plug and my queen has agreed to
use it on me this weekend as a birthday treat in combination
with severely administered spankings from her riding crop.

My only prior experience with urethral play was when I was
masturbating as a teenager and used some lubricant and a Q-tip.
I didn't really know what I was doing at the time and for added
effect, I strapped a rubber band around my cock.

A day later, blood was coming out of my urethra and I was
totally freaked out.

So, it's with some trepidation that I venture back into this
type of play with my beloved queen. I know to sterilize the plug
with rubbing alcohol before using it and to use a water-soluble
lubricant for easier insertion.

I am also fearing that my queen/wife will get freaked and change
her mind about doing this.

Anyone else out there have experiences with / suggestions about
urethral play?

Thanks,
j_stimmt

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From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:24:30 +0000

Mistress and her maid - part four
First part is at:- Wonderful visit - Mistress and her maid

the maid was summoned to report and prepare the dungeons for use
by Mistress Genevieve

Dungeons cleaned, one converted to a school room and toilets
cleaned. Uniform worn was red apron and sheer see through black
panties only.

Mistress Ayla's champagne was chilled, with the maid dressing in
uniform and waiting Madam's return - due to Madam Ayla's late
return the maid waited dressed for one and a half hours, then
changed back to street wear.

Madam returned, maid served drinks, followed Madam to dungeon
for inspection and foot worship of Madam - as maid was bent over
the bench and ordered to lower trousers and underwear for use of
the cane by his Mistress, 6 strokes were applied.

The maid reported for service the following afternoon to clean
house and prepare for Mistress Genevieve to use.

maid wore the summer formal uniform.

maid dressed Mistress Genevieve for her session, served drinks
to her Mistress in mixed company and sat with her Mistress
whilst she waited and listened to Mistress Genevieve conducting
her training.

wendy on this day, was again denied an orgasm even though he sat
next to her owner.

After household inspection the maid was placed over his
Mistress' knees, with her skirt raised, his punishment was a
spanking of over 300 caresses of Madam's hand, before Madam
reached for the cane to administer 8 strokes with it.

The maid was dismissed with no pleasure or relief, but with his
balls so full and him so needing relief, she was to be allowed
to use her Mistress' property and empty herself later that night
when alone - when she did there was a very large amount and it
seemed to take forever to finish.

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C: Dominatrix Leslie
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie Olsen

Hi everyone,

I want to introduce myself to everyone. My name is Leslie and I
am a dominatrix. I have been into this since 2004. I'm excited
to be a part of the group!

Leslie

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C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 5 Aug 2009 19:41:33 -0000
From: kinkmarshall

I am wondering if there is a book or some other kind of
publication of games and contests Mistresses can play with their
slaves, when a group of two or more couples gets together. If
not, it might be fun to post some experiences! My Mistress and I
are going to a couple of "events" over the next 4 weeks.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 6 Aug 2009 20:39:17 -0000
From: slaveboy

kinkmarshall wrote:

>it might be fun to post some experiences! My Mistress and I
>are going to a couple of "events" over the next 4 weeks.

I for one would love to hear ideas, as well as what "events" you
are going to. Are they public or private?

I would think games of strength pitting slaves against each
other in pairs or groups would be interesting, like push ups,
weight lifting. They could be lined up and told to do as many as
possible. First to drop out would get the worst punishment and
the winner would get a reward. Actually, the winning slave
owner would get the reward and the slave could get something
like a pat on the head and some water.

This could be done with tons of less strenuous activities, like
holding hands straight out, horizontal to the ground and each
slave would have a glass almost filled with water on each hand
and the last slave to have both glasses full would win, or the
last single glass left would win.

That could be done making them hold light weights also, and the
breaking of an imaginary angle when you can no longer hold your
arms up would constitute being eliminated.

The Mistresses would sit and watch and agree on who to eliminate
as the games continue, calling out their number to eliminate
them as they fail.

Would love to hear others' ideas. Would also be very interested
in participating with other couples if anyone is interested and
we can get it organized.

Anyone for a slave Olympics in Southern California?
How about a slave "hunt"?
That could be really interesting!

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C: boy - you're really in for it now
From: james
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:52:05 EDT

Thank you! We have received the download files and installed
them with no problem. As you said - the program is huge and very
thorough. I took a quick look at some of it - out of curiosity
and to make sure all was working correctly. I was amazed and
becoming stimulated - lol.

However, because the program will be used by my Mistress, I soon
relinquished it to her view. She was absolutely glued to the
monitor for well over an hour. She then stood up and with a huge
grin remarked "boy - you're really in for it now."

I of course had chills at that. Now - I await her return from a
previously arranged shopping trip. I have the feeling that
you've heard this sort of response before.

I've been getting your 'digest' for about 10 yrs now and have
always read and enjoyed all of it. Thank you for this program
and for all the years of the digest.

Soon I imagine she'll want some videos and books. She is
especially interested in understanding the aspects of the use of
toilet training. I don't know what to think.

Please continue all your good works!

james

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Re: C: boy - you're really in for it now
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:06:48 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello James,

I loved the response of your Mistress... "boy - you're really in
for it now."

I had a good laugh over that, a lady after my own heart.

sincerely,
Christine

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Re: C: how to fuck hubby with a strap-on
Date: 6 Aug 2009 01:29:20 -0000
From: Christine at u4ds.com

Hello Pussikat steve,

you wrote:

>Thank you Ms Christine for all the good work you do on
>Domestic.

Thank you Pussikat steve for some excellent feedback on
something I missed from my own posts. This is why I'm always
telling folk who send their questions to me privately to post
their questions here.

DOMestic readers always have more to offer than David and I, and
that goes for everyone here. Thank you all.

I'll repeat your advice in the next digest, in case anyone
missed it:-

Pussikat steve wrote:

>With regard to internal cleanliness, instead of the
>paraphernalia of a full enema, unless it is part of your play,
>I find it more convenient to use a small douche. This consists
>of a rubber bulb approx 50mm in diameter with a detachable
>nozzle.

>In use the bulb is filled with lukewarm water and squirted into
>the rectum after first having a bowel movement. Discharge the
>water into the toilet bowl and it is important now to flush the
>toilet to leave clear water in the bowl because now one repeats
>the process and one can see if the discharged water is clear.
>If it is not then repeat the process until the discharge is
>absolutely clean. It would normally only require two
>applications. You will almost certainly find that the dildo
>remains clean throughout the session.

>The douche is very easy to carry and is obtainable from medical
>suppliers and some gay toy sites.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

Renew or get your DOMestic password.

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Re: C: Mistress and her maid
Date: 5 Aug 2009 16:05:16 -0000
From: Maid angela

This is a very interesting account and quite exciting for a male
maid like me to read. There did however seem to be a lot of
sexual content in the relationship. When I serve my mistress
there is no sexual content it is housework, housework,
housework. I am her domestic and household drudge and the only
other activity in the relationship is when I am allowed to give
her a foot massage or when I am being punished for any lapses in
my work. I love being treated like that.

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Re: C: Mistress and her maid
Date: 9 Aug 2009 21:52:11 -0000
From: sissy maid wendy

Maid angela wrote:

>a lot of sexual content in the relationship

i expect different Mistresses have differing preferences and
uses for their maids. Part of my work includes some slut
training (as all sissies should have), and training in the
pleasure of other Mistresses and women in general.

I also no longer have the right to an orgasm without my owner's
approval - but you will find out more as i send the notes
through. Please also note the sissy does not always receive
intimate attention.

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C: Mistress and her maid - Training continues (parts 2 & 3)
From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:59:33 +0000

Training continues.
First part.

Part two - Mistress and her maid

maid arrived wearing panties, camisole, suspenders and stockings
under street wear.

Duties for the day - cleaning the kitchen, clean all dungeons,
and wipe floors and all equipment. Red apron worn over the black
underwear set.

maid then dressed in full uniform traditional, but no panties
worn. Served wine in front of Madam's household on the day.

maid then taken to the front dungeon, to sit and wait for
Madam's return.

Over the knee spanking administered by Madam.

maid then knelt on the floor bent over supported by hands placed
on all fours with dress raised. Correction by the cane of 7
strokes plus 12 strokes of the whip for failure to dust some
areas properly.

maid thanked Madam.

The maid was comforted by Madam afterwards.

No sexual attention on this day, no masturbation.

Part three - Mistress and her maid

The maid arrived as instructed just after 2.30pm

The maid today was to clean the front dungeon, she cleans the
mirrors and floors, plus the bench and all canes, paddles and
whips on two of the walls followed by the floors.

Today he cleaned his Mistresses strap-on harness, and washed her
strap-on, placing both on the bench as a reminder of her owners'
right to take her when she, and only she, wanted to.

maid quickly changed into the winter uniform, of a maid's dress,
camisole, satin pink blouse, suspenders and black stockings
followed by his high heels, she had thought of wearing panties
as she waited for his owners' return, but she knew the new rules
of 'no panties' to be worn, as she walked the house doing his
work for Madam - she was now never to wear panties in the house
unless Madam had special guests, she would of course wear
panties under her street clothes from time to time, but he would
from now on be kept without panties whilst in uniform.

Without panties for her Madam's access, to both check his
behavior, reward him with permission to play with his clit or
just so Madam could see her property and be reminded of what she
now owns every time the sissy maid raises his skirt to curtsy.

Without panties so Madam could see her property and or touch it,
caress it or slap it to remind her sissy that both the clit and
sissy maid's liquid cum was hers, and its use was to be
authorised by her or another female.

The maid's days of masturbating for her own pleasure through an
orgasm had now been taken from her. Madam now owned his clit and
his pussy. Their use was now only with her permission, should
she want to watch her maid play with her clit for her or Madam's
female friends enjoyment or decide to restrain her and milk her.
(the sissy would need to be trained to be a sub after milking -
an important step for the future).

The maid was now ready and waiting for his owners' return - he
met her at the back door, welcomed her home and sat with his
owner. Lighting a cigarette for her - before pouring a glass of
champagne for his owner. As they were alone for a short while
today they chatted of the steps the maid had taken over the
years and how he had progressed.

The maid thanked his Mistress.

Madam then outlined to sissy some of the next steps to be taken
by her maid - and the personal sex duties she would need to
learn - these would include his oral servicing of a transsexual
to full service whilst his Mistress watched, with her Mistress
selecting a mature life style transsexual to be her first real
cock to enter her.

This would be special gift to both the maid and a transsexual
when the time was right. his Mistress would only watch part of
this as the transsexual was to be with her for an hour or two
and she would be trained to be a better fuck for his Mistress'
strapon - it was to be an education, benefiting the maid's owner
as well.

The maid was also now likely to be punished in front of other
slaves as well as taking other slaves in her mouth under her
owners' directions and watchful eye.

After they had finished their chat it was inspection time, with
Madam pleased with the slave/maids work... but it was still
punishment time... Today the Mistress punished her with an over
knee spanking of what was often the regular three hundred spanks
of Madam's hand.

After reaching the counted total of three hundred, the Mistress
told the maid to stop counting. She had not finished and she was
now going to spank the maid just because she wanted to and
counting was not necessary. The Mistress then spanked her maid
in quick spanks, of at least 15 or more - by this time the maid
was almost in tears, but her owner had not finished quite yet.

Madam had decided to follow the spanking with the testing of a
new cane - Madam had decided the maid was to get 12 of the best
across her sissy bottom.

The maid bent herself over the bench, moved her legs apart,
raising her dress and slips to expose her now bare and very
reddened bottom. Madam selected the cane of her choice. It was
covered in tight leather or cloth, so it was more a short whip.

Madam now started to tap the maid's bottom lightly with the
cane, then she raised her hand higher delivering the first
stroke of the cane across the maid's bottom, with a swish sound
as the cane sliced through the air before contacting the sissy's
bottom. The maid's legs now buckled as she moved after receiving
the cane, but as a well trained maid she knew that the stroke
would not count towards the total of twelve if he did not raise
her bottom to receive each stoke - each stroke hurt the maid and
she thanked his owner for each one.

After her owner had reached 12 she thought they had finished but
Madam decided one more to make it 13, the baker's dozen. This
last one, stronger than the rest, hurt the most. The maid was
upset but knew it would make her a better maid and her owner a
better Mistress the more she corrected, and used her.

As he now fell to the floor thanking her owner for the
punishment, she knew that Madam was her owner and she was truly
her maid, slave and property. She really did like to please her
Mistress in any way he could.

The maid now sat on the Mistress' lap and she cuddled him and
comforted him after his ordeal.

Not long after, the maid was sitting in the lounge next to her
owner knowing she wore no panties, her bottom had been spanked
and caned and she felt a great deal of respect for her owner and
so much enjoyed sitting close to her Mistress and holding hands,
her hand on his knees, under his dress or just being held close
to her - she was her slave and sissy maid.

The Madam was getting ready for going out for dinner, so the
slave changed to her street clothes and left.

She had been denied another orgasm but her owner had told her to
control herself and no orgasm from Monday for the next two days
until he would report to her on Wednesday.

There was a possibility, not a guarantee but a possibility she
would be restrained and milked by his owner's hand - after which
she would be taken to another part of the house for a drink and
chat with her owner only, so the maid could take the next step
of feeling at ease and in uniform after a milking.

This was a necessary step in the training as one day Mistress
would be lending her to other Ladies who might want her sexual
use but also her companionship and service after they had used
her sexually. A maid needs to be eager to serve whether it had
been days or minutes since milking, sex or an accidental cum - a
maid was a maid.

The slave / maid left her owners' house eagerly awaiting her
next visit - this time it would be from 12.30 to 5.30pm on the
following Wednesday. She was to be there and used for half a
day.

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Re: C: Real life Fem Dom
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:20:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

I haven't quoted anything from your posting MaitresseX, but
I do have something to discuss privately concerning your post.
If you wouldn't mind, I wonder if you would contact me
privately? My Mistress knows and approves of this request, just
so you know.

Thank You

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P: male sub seeking Female writer - orgasm control
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:32:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: Humble Serf

male sub seeking Female writer for fiction collaboration and
possibly orgasm control.

I am a 39 year old natural life-long submissive with particular
interests in cuckoldry, chastity and humiliation. I have a major
fetish for panties, which, in recent months for various reasons,
has gotten out of hand to the extent I touch myself several
times a day looking at images on various websites. In addition,
I am blessed with an incredibly high sex drive but cursed with
an incredibly small member.

Unfortunately this has rendered me, pretty much, a eunuch, I
have had full penetrative sex in the past with a small handful
of women, but invariably disappointed them and found it hard not
to - forgive me for being so explicit - slip out.

In short, I have had to learn to accept that if I am ever to
please a woman again, it is not as a lover but as a servant or
some other form of amusement.

I am also a keen writer and would love to exchange fantasies,
perhaps collaborating, with a superior Lady. I wonder if there
are any fine ladies out there who would come to the aid of a
weak submissive and take control of his masturbation in order to
try and cure this filthy addiction.

Perhaps this Lady would be so generous as to work with me
through roleplay in the form of fictional scenarios to show me
the error of my ways and train me to overcome them, while at the
same time allowing me to amuse her with tales of my errant alter-
egos?

I'd love to hear from any Lady out there interested in this and
will be happy answer any questions you may have. Please feel
free to email me directly at:-

humble.serf@yahoo.co.uk
email address info

Yours hopefully,

Humble Serf

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:48:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

Hi,

Since I'm getting some interest on the new chastity devices I've written about, I thought I would allow the readers to see more on our website chastityheaven (which is currently under construction).

During this transitional period, you can still go there and see more pics and read more about all the effort that has gone into coming up with the best designed custom made and custom sized devices. They are, HANDS DOWN, superior to the plastic devices
and you can read all the reasons why at our site.

I just posted the latest design there Wednesday night and here are a couple pics of it.

So, you can see more and read about them here at chastityheaven

Anyone wishing to order still needs to contact me because ordering on the site is not functional as yet.

Any feedback would be much appreciated!

Thank you for all the interest!
herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
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Re: U: Custom Made Chastity Devices - Chastity Heaven
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:48:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

Some Problems with my ChastityHeaven website

Hi All,

If anyone reading this filled out a form on our website at
ChastityHeaven and asked for more info on ordering one, please
email me privately. The form wasn't working properly and I got
several requests with no email info on them.

PLEASE email me directly until I can say that everything there
is working properly. I have removed the forms so it doesn't
happen anymore but I don't want anyone to feel as if I ignored
you. The darn things were going into my SPAM folder, so luckily
I checked there and found them.

Also I've put a lot more info on the site about our devices, and
lots more will be going up there as time goes on. There are
plenty of links to email me from there too.

s.b.

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From: james
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:52:05 EDT

Thank you! We have received the download files and installed
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However, because the program will be used by my Mistress, I soon
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monitor for well over an hour. She then stood up and with a huge
grin remarked "boy - you're really in for it now."

I of course had chills at that. Now - I await her return from a
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you've heard this sort of response before.

I've been getting your 'digest' for about 10 yrs now and have
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Please continue all your good works!

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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leslie Olsen

Hi everyone,

I want to introduce myself to everyone. My name is Leslie and I
am a dominatrix. I have been into this since 2004. I'm excited
to be a part of the group!

Leslie

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From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:59:33 +0000

Training continues.
First part is at:- Wonderful visit - Mistress and her maid

Part two - Mistress and her maid

maid arrived wearing panties, camisole, suspenders and stockings
under street wear.

Duties for the day - cleaning the kitchen, clean all dungeons,
and wipe floors and all equipment. Red apron worn over the black
underwear set.

maid then dressed in full uniform traditional, but no panties
worn. Served wine in front of Madam's household on the day.

maid then taken to the front dungeon, to sit and wait for
Madam's return.

Over the knee spanking administered by Madam.

maid then knelt on the floor bent over supported by hands placed
on all fours with dress raised. Correction by the cane of 7
strokes plus 12 strokes of the whip for failure to dust some
areas properly.

maid thanked Madam.

The maid was comforted by Madam afterwards.

No sexual attention on this day, no masturbation.

Part three - Mistress and her maid

The maid arrived as instructed just after 2.30pm

The maid today was to clean the front dungeon, she cleans the
mirrors and floors, plus the bench and all canes, paddles and
whips on two of the walls followed by the floors.

Today he cleaned his Mistresses strap-on harness, and washed her
strap-on, placing both on the bench as a reminder of her owners'
right to take her when she, and only she, wanted to.

maid quickly changed into the winter uniform, of a maid's dress,
camisole, satin pink blouse, suspenders and black stockings
followed by his high heels, she had thought of wearing panties
as she waited for his owners' return, but she knew the new rules
of 'no panties' to be worn, as she walked the house doing his
work for Madam - she was now never to wear panties in the house
unless Madam had special guests, she would of course wear
panties under her street clothes from time to time, but he would
from now on be kept without panties whilst in uniform.

Without panties for her Madam's access, to both check his
behavior, reward him with permission to play with his clit or
just so Madam could see her property and be reminded of what she
now owns every time the sissy maid raises his skirt to curtsy.

Without panties so Madam could see her property and or touch it,
caress it or slap it to remind her sissy that both the clit and
sissy maid's liquid cum was hers, and its use was to be
authorised by her or another female.

The maid's days of masturbating for her own pleasure through an
orgasm had now been taken from her. Madam now owned his clit and
his pussy. Their use was now only with her permission, should
she want to watch her maid play with her clit for her or Madam's
female friends enjoyment or decide to restrain her and milk her.
(the sissy would need to be trained to be a sub after milking -
an important step for the future).

The maid was now ready and waiting for his owners' return - he
met her at the back door, welcomed her home and sat with his
owner. Lighting a cigarette for her - before pouring a glass of
champagne for his owner. As they were alone for a short while
today they chatted of the steps the maid had taken over the
years and how he had progressed.

The maid thanked his Mistress.

Madam then outlined to sissy some of the next steps to be taken
by her maid - and the personal sex duties she would need to
learn - these would include his oral servicing of a transsexual
to full service whilst his Mistress watched, with her Mistress
selecting a mature life style transsexual to be her first real
cock to enter her.

This would be special gift to both the maid and a transsexual
when the time was right. his Mistress would only watch part of
this as the transsexual was to be with her for an hour or two
and she would be trained to be a better fuck for his Mistress'
strapon - it was to be an education, benefiting the maid's owner
as well.

The maid was also now likely to be punished in front of other
slaves as well as taking other slaves in her mouth under her
owners' directions and watchful eye.

After they had finished their chat it was inspection time, with
Madam pleased with the slave/maids work... but it was still
punishment time... Today the Mistress punished her with an over
knee spanking of what was often the regular three hundred spanks
of Madam's hand.

After reaching the counted total of three hundred, the Mistress
told the maid to stop counting. She had not finished and she was
now going to spank the maid just because she wanted to and
counting was not necessary. The Mistress then spanked her maid
in quick spanks, of at least 15 or more - by this time the maid
was almost in tears, but her owner had not finished quite yet.

Madam had decided to follow the spanking with the testing of a
new cane - Madam had decided the maid was to get 12 of the best
across her sissy bottom.

The maid bent herself over the bench, moved her legs apart,
raising her dress and slips to expose her now bare and very
reddened bottom. Madam selected the cane of her choice. It was
covered in tight leather or cloth, so it was more a short whip.

Madam now started to tap the maid's bottom lightly with the
cane, then she raised her hand higher delivering the first
stroke of the cane across the maid's bottom, with a swish sound
as the cane sliced through the air before contacting the sissy's
bottom. The maid's legs now buckled as she moved after receiving
the cane, but as a well trained maid she knew that the stroke
would not count towards the total of twelve if he did not raise
her bottom to receive each stoke - each stroke hurt the maid and
she thanked his owner for each one.

After her owner had reached 12 she thought they had finished but
Madam decided one more to make it 13, the baker's dozen. This
last one, stronger than the rest, hurt the most. The maid was
upset but knew it would make her a better maid and her owner a
better Mistress the more she corrected, and used her.

As he now fell to the floor thanking her owner for the
punishment, she knew that Madam was her owner and she was truly
her maid, slave and property. She really did like to please her
Mistress in any way he could.

The maid now sat on the Mistress' lap and she cuddled him and
comforted him after his ordeal.

Not long after, the maid was sitting in the lounge next to her
owner knowing she wore no panties, her bottom had been spanked
and caned and she felt a great deal of respect for her owner and
so much enjoyed sitting close to her Mistress and holding hands,
her hand on his knees, under his dress or just being held close
to her - she was her slave and sissy maid.

The Madam was getting ready for going out for dinner, so the
slave changed to her street clothes and left.

She had been denied another orgasm but her owner had told her to
control herself and no orgasm from Monday for the next two days
until he would report to her on Wednesday.

There was a possibility, not a guarantee but a possibility she
would be restrained and milked by his owner's hand - after which
she would be taken to another part of the house for a drink and
chat with her owner only, so the maid could take the next step
of feeling at ease and in uniform after a milking.

This was a necessary step in the training as one day Mistress
would be lending her to other Ladies who might want her sexual
use but also her companionship and service after they had used
her sexually. A maid needs to be eager to serve whether it had
been days or minutes since milking, sex or an accidental cum - a
maid was a maid.

The slave / maid left her owners' house eagerly awaiting her
next visit - this time it would be from 12.30 to 5.30pm on the
following Wednesday. She was to be there and used for half a
day.

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:32:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: Humble Serf

male sub seeking Female writer for fiction
collaboration and possibly orgasm control.

I am a 39 year old natural life-long submissive with particular
interests in cuckoldry, chastity and humiliation. I have a major
fetish for panties, which, in recent months for various reasons,
has gotten out of hand to the extent I touch myself several
times a day looking at images on various websites. In addition,
I am blessed with an incredibly high sex drive but cursed with
an incredibly small member.

Unfortunately this has rendered me, pretty much, a eunuch, I
have had full penetrative sex in the past with a small handful
of women, but invariably disappointed them and found it hard not
to - forgive me for being so explicit - slip out.

In short, I have had to learn to accept that if I am ever to
please a woman again, it is not as a lover but as a servant or
some other form of amusement.

I am also a keen writer and would love to exchange fantasies,
perhaps collaborating, with a superior Lady. I wonder if there
are any fine ladies out there who would come to the aid of a
weak submissive and take control of his masturbation in order to
try and cure this filthy addiction.

Perhaps this Lady would be so generous as to work with me
through roleplay in the form of fictional scenarios to show me
the error of my ways and train me to overcome them, while at the
same time allowing me to amuse her with tales of my errant alter-
egos?

I'd love to hear from any Lady out there interested in this and
will be happy answer any questions you may have. Please feel
free to email me directly at:-

humble.serf@yahoo.co.uk
email address info

Yours hopefully,

Humble Serf

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:48:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

Hi,

Since I'm getting some interest on the new chastity devices I've written about, I thought I would allow the readers to see more on our website chastityheaven (which is currently under construction).

During this transitional period, you can still go there and see more pics and read more about all the effort that has gone into coming up with the best designed custom made and custom sized devices. (click pics to enlarge)

They are, HANDS DOWN, superior to the plastic
devices and you can read all the reasons why
at our site.

I just posted the latest design there Wednesday night and here are a couple pics of it. (click pictures to enlarge)

So, you can see more and read about them here at chastityheaven

Anyone wishing to order still needs to contact me because ordering on the site is not functional as yet.

Any feedback would be much appreciated!

Thank you for all the interest!

herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info

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Date: 5 Aug 2009 19:41:33 -0000
From: kinkmarshall

I am wondering if there is a book or some other kind of
publication of games and contests Mistresses can play with their
slaves, when a group of two or more couples gets together. If
not, it might be fun to post some experiences! My Mistress and I
are going to a couple of "events" over the next 4 weeks.

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Re: C: how to fuck hubby with a strap-on
From: Madamplz
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:21:57 EDT

Christine wrote:

>Do not take any notice of people who suggest using lubricants
>with brand names that suggest they ease pain during
>penetration. Pain is a signal to stop or change what you are
>doing, so it is a very bad idea to hide or mask pain.

I concur with Christine on this.

I'd also like to add that I had once used Anal-Ease and it
stripped the polish right off my manicure.

K-Y is beginning to make some very nice water based lubes now
which are quite a bit less expensive and much more readily
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Re: C: how to fuck hubby with a strap-on
Date: 30 Jul 2009 17:13:36 -0000
From: pussikat steve

Christine wrote:

>Always be sure he has had a bowel movement before attempting
>anal penetration. If you have the equipment, then giving him
>an enema before anal play cleans him out and can make the
>whole business nicer.

Madam,

As usual a very well considered and written piece.

With regard to internal cleanliness, instead of the paraphernalia of a
full enema, unless it is part of your play, I find it more convenient
to use a small douche. This consists of a rubber bulb approx 50mm in
diameter with a detachable nozzle.

In use the bulb is filled with lukewarm water and squirted into
the rectum after first having a bowel movement. Discharge the
water into the toilet bowl and it is important now to flush the
toilet to leave clear water in the bowl because now one repeats
the process and one can see if the discharged water is clear. If
it is not then repeat the process until the discharge is
absolutely clean. It would normally only require two
applications. You will almost certainly find that the dildo
remains clean throughout the session.

The douche is very easy to carry and is obtainable from medical
suppliers and some gay toy sites.

Thank you Ms Christine for all the good work you do on Domestic.

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
From: Madamplz
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:21:57 EDT

Ashley wrote:

>"i have another question that he is unaware of yet... but soon
>will be... what are your suggestions on teaching him to take
>cock. like a good hubby?"

I think Christine probably gave you a good overview of that
subject. All I can add is to let him know how exciting it is for
you to have him take that for you.

When I was training my husband for it I enjoyed letting him know
that's how it was going to be. When he got caught up in it and
began enjoying it I began increasing the humiliation aspects of
it. I liked getting him way out there and then asking him what
he thought all of his former girlfriends would think if they
knew he could take a much bigger cock than they could. Would
they laugh at him? I bet they would have. That thought alone
could make him shoot over his head.

Like Christine, I would also suggest giving him to a male friend
and once, even did him in front of a group of male "doms" who
stared as though watching a train wreck. I told him not to mind
them staring at him. They were only living vicariously through
him at that point. What a lucky boy he was to get the sort of
attention he was receiving.

Jennie wrote:

>"If the husband feels pain he must bend further forward, which
>will straighten his anal canal. Do not stop inserting the
>dildo."

I disagree with regards to not stopping the insertion.

As a matter of course, when training a submissive to take cock
anally, I think it's safest to keep my position steady and allow
the submissive to mount my strap on at his own pace. He can feel
whether or not he's in pain. I can't. I might feel resistance
but I might not.

If you tear your boy, he may need surgery to correct the damage
and there will be a long recovery afterward. That's not going to
be much fun for you if you screw this up so err on the side of
caution.

Always aim for his maximum pleasure because that's what makes
him want more of that kind of training. When I'm finished I want
him thinking about how he can get more of that, not how he can
get out of it. If he wants more I'm at an advantage. I can
eventually train him to take a larger cock, take it for a longer
period of time, take it in conjunction with humiliation, etc. If
I hurt him, he's probably going to run away every time I strap
on. Besides, I wouldn't like being inept.

So if he's feeling pain you need to stop. Don't move in or out,
just stop. It may be that his inner sphincter has gone into
spasm in which case you don't want any movement at all until his
body begins to relax. Wait until you feel the resistance leave
which is a sign that the inner sphincter, over which he has zero
control, is beginning to relax again and opening up.

If he still feels pain after 40 seconds or so, allow him to
slowly move off of the dildo at his own speed. Continuing pain
is an indication of a problem which should be seen by a
physician.

I also disagree with the use of liquid soap as a lubricant.
Soaps make a very bad lube as they will dry out delicate
membranes.

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
From: Ashley
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:00:59 EDT

Christine wrote:

>Not sure whether you mean a flesh and blood male cock, or
>whether you mean teaching him to take female "cock" - as in a
>dildo?

Yes he will be taking my girl cock and a real cock I'm picking
out for him. And I want to train him properly so I can enjoy
having him used for as long as I'd like in one session... or as
many as I see fit for him to take at a time.

Ashley

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Re: C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

jboy wrote:

>I can't for the life of me see in your post what design your
>new cage is? we are awaiting a new one that was custom made by
>maturemetal

I didn't post pics, but I will now. The images display here:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/the_best_chastity_device_and_t.shtml

Yes, I work with him and they can be ordered from either of us.
You should be getting yours very soon. Please let the readers
know how you like it when it arrives. These are the two I most
highly recommend. The more enclosed one is the most comfortable.

I'll have another, better website up soon and I'll send the link
when I have it up and running.

I've sent in another more detailed posting about why these are
so good. Thanks for your interest jboy.

Re: chastity and not cumming, Super A wrote:-

>I have personally gone 30 and 45 days several times with my
>personal best being 105 days. But I know many guys who have
>literally gone months and a couple who have several years under
>their 'belts'.

WOW!!! And is this with no cumming at all?

I'm resigned to wearing my cage indefinitely as Mistress is
quite serious about that. However, it's another thing entirely,
at least for me, to not cum, even when wearing a cage. I am
trying to go as long as possible but 3 1/2 weeks is it so far
for me, so I applaud your ability to go that long.

I can manipulate any cage enough to cum if I've been in it long
enough, so Mistress made additional rules to help prevent me
from cumming. It's kind of funny how this got going, so maybe a
little background will help.

We were watching an episode of Entourage one day and someone
made a remark in it that a friend hadn't been laid in so long
he's almost a virgin. I looked at Mistress and asked how long
she thought a person would have to go without sex to be
considered a virgin. She said "at least a year" and the subject
was dropped.

A couple weeks later She brought it up and said She would like
me to become a "virgin" in Her honor. I agreed of course, and
She decided that the year would begin on my birthday, which was
coming up at the time. She added that a virgin could not even
cum, or it would lose it's status as a "virgin trainee" and
would have to start again. She said the only way to stay on
track would be to consume my accident and be "fluid neutral".
So, to maintain my status as "virgin trainee" i had to either
not cum or immediately consume the fluid that I had "stolen"
from Her.

I think it's disgusting to have to do that, so any accidents are
few and far between but I cannot seem to go as long as I would
like or as long as Super A has achieved. I've since eaten my
discharge twice and found it disgusting so am trying hard to
avoid that again.

Mistress tells me how much She enjoys training me to be
'virtuous' in Her honor. As frustrated as I get, I'm also really
proud to be doing this for Her. I'm really looking forward to
completing the year and attaining "virgin status". I'm sure
there will be a nice celebration when it happens.

I'm also thankful that I'm doing this in my new chastity cage
because it makes staying caged much easier and more comfortable.
I've posted more info on the cage at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/the_best_chastity_device_and_t.shtml

telling people how they can arrange to get one for themselves if
they're interested.

Thanks!

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Re: C: house work punishments etc
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:11:54 -0400
From: Mistress Mandy

sissy maid wendy wrote:

>my Mistress whom i regularly serve and have for some years
>would like to place a brief account of my work in her house,
>punishments etc, these maybe between a few lines and page or
>two. we have discussed it and believe the time is right for me
>to post these special occasions on the web

I have my slave track his assignments and feelings about his
assignments in a journal. I find this more subservient than to
allow him to type it on a computer. It also helps capture his
thoughts in a stream of consciousness fashion, plus he can't go
back and edit out the thoughts he later decides he doesn't want
me to read.

I also have him start and end each entry with a sentence of
something he appreciates about me recently. Sometimes I will
take his journal and make comments in it for him. Some comments
are praise, some are taunts and some are further instructions
for further humiliations.

Mistress Mandy
Chicago

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Re: C: house work punishments etc
From: Stephen w
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:52:48 +0000

THANK YOU MISTRESS
smw property Mistress Aayla

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C: Mistress and her maid
From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:27:10 +0000

This is the start of a number of brief accounts of a long term
sissy maid serving his/her Mistress and owner. We have had
contact with one another for many years... starting off as sub
and professional - moving to friends and ultimately Mistress
(Madam) taking full ownership and collaring the sissy maid
around 18 months ago.

Madam is a slim very mature and attractive Lady in her late
fifties her sissy maid is 6 years younger.

At the time the sissy was formally collared the maid was taken
by Madam in full view of the witnesses. The maid is now the
property of Mistress. A more detailed account of that day will
be prepared in the future.

Hopefully these short few lines have helped place the notes and
stories which follow in perspective. The accounts will sometimes
be brief but they are true.

Wonderful visit - Part one - Mistress and her maid

So many things... maid was formally given new duties for the
house cleaning and to put in good order all the play rooms on
the ground floor, plus the floors in the hall and kitchen, plus
a check of the toilets. In new cleaning uniform of red apron
only and no other clothes - except slave collar - showing the
ownership by Madam.

Dungeons and one sissy room cleaned and inspected by Madam.

Then to full traditional uniform but no panties worn, allowing
full access by Madam to her property at any time.

maid confessed to having 6 orgasms without permission.

Punishment for the day included:- being sent to the sissy room,
to be bent over the side of the bed with the maid kneeling on
the floor. Skirt was raised for punishment of a warmed up
stroking of the bottom by Madam with the cane, followed by 6
firm strokes with the cane for achieving an orgasm on 6
occasions since last visit without permission - these were firm
stokes with the maid thanking Madam after each stroke, the maid
was reminded of what each stroke was for as the cane struck the
maid's bottom.

Following the inspection of the sissy room Madam found dust on
the legs of one of her favorite chairs - Madam then required the
slave maid to remain kneeling over the bed with skirt raised,
Madam returned to the sissy room with a short whip, similar to a
9 tails, the maid received 4 firm strokes of the whip, with the
maid accepting Madam's punishment.

The maid then kissed Madam's feet acknowledging her place and
his ownership.

The maid cleaned up and returned the cane and whip to their
place. The maid was comforted by Madam, in the lounge. Madam
quickly had her hands under the maid's skirt and played with the
sissy's clit, a cock she now owns, it's use and enjoyment by the
maid is hers and that of her close friend Mistress XXXX.

The maid was later taken to the front dungeon to have Madam sit
on a chair with the maid to sit legs apart across the Madam's
lap, facing the Madam, where the maid was caressed and held his
owner as she moved in a simulated lap fucking of the maid, with
the maid's bare bottom, clit and all rubbing against the
Mistress' leather clad legs. It was a reminder to the maid that
he was a slut in training and soon it would be time for Madam to
use her strap on - perhaps the next visit or another - Madam was
yet to decide when and where to take her maid.

After this, for a while Madam had the sissy maid stand in front
of Madam and raise his skirt.

Madam then took her sissy's clit in her hand and held it by the
base as she slapped the cock head, either in an upward or
sideways motion. The pain was felt by the sissy as Madam gave
her a further 6 hard slaps on her sissy clit head to remind him
the penis was Madam's property and that her orgasms were for
women's pleasure not the sissy's own from this day forward..

The pain felt by the maid was very different, but as his
reddening cock head showed there was pain - but the maid did not
move away but leant forward after each stroke of Madam's hand to
show he accepted willingly her right to punish.

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C: The Best Chastity Device and the Reasons Why
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

As I recently posted, I have found a wonderfully designed and
extremely comfortable chastity device, far superior to any of
the plastic cages and probably the most comfortable cage in the
world for a number of reasons. I've received a number of
inquiries so I wanted to post this asap.

The cage I have on now is handmade from stainless steel. To be
as comfortable as possible, a chastity device must be sized in a
very specific way. Some experimenting has found that if it is
too small and restrictive, it will be painful. But, strangely,
if it permits the penis to get erect, it will also be painful.
That is because the testicles get pulled and squeezed at the
back ring from the forward force of the erection.

We have found that there is a "zone" within which the wearer
will be EXTREMELY comfortable! This is just one of the secrets
to having the most comfortable chastity device. For anyone who
wants to be able to wear a cage 24/7, real comfort and ease of
wear are a must. This is a cage that can be worn indefinitely.

Additionally, there is no friction with polished stainless
steel, like there is with the plastic of a CB-2000 or related
cages. Plus it is far less bulky. My cage is undetectable under
clothing because of it's sleek design. Properly fitted, a
stainless steel cage can be worn for as long as your Keyholder
wants you to wear it. Mine feels the same today, over six weeks
into wearing it, as it did the day I put it on!

There is little to no pain when the penis is restricted properly
within the cage because there is no pulling or strain on the
balls. Cages that are either too small or too big are both
uncomfortable, but a properly sized cage will feel almost as if
there's nothing there!

It's true for the penis so is it any wonder that it's true for
penis cages too? Size DOES matter! :-)

I put my custom cage on six weeks ago yesterday (Monday) and it
feels exactly the same today as it did the day I put it on. I
can clean myself in it because it's a fairly open design and I
can shave with it on if I pull the skin back and forth. Of all
the devices I have worn, from my first, a Remy tube, through the
Miller line of CB-2000 and the Curve, the Exobelt and several
others, including a full-belt style one, NOTHING has come close
to being "24/7/365 comfortable" like this one is.

One more thing is, I almost never put any lubrication on like I
needed to do with the plastic cages because polished stainless
steel is so very smooth and friction-free. Mistress loves the
way it looks and she calls it my penis jewelry. before she
reminded me that I was not to bring the subject up again.

If it's OK with Ms. Christine and David, I would like to make
these available to any DOMestic readers who might be interested
in obtaining one. They take hours to make and are real works of
art! When you buy one, you're not just getting a cage, you're
getting an expert who knows from experience how to size your
cage properly to fit you correctly for the long term!

These cannot be compared to any of the mass produced plastic
cages on the market. These are hand made by a metal artist just
for you. Each takes hours to make. The images here show my
favorites. The cage type is a sleeker version of the CB-2000 but
is light years away as far as comfort, feel and sleekness. It is
$250.00, will never break and will last a thousand years. The
more enclosed one is the one I'm wearing right now.

Anyone near Los Angeles will be able to order and pick it up in
person if they wish to do so. If anyone has any questions,
please feel free to ask, either on the list or in private email.

Thanks!
herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info

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P: Seeking Western Massachusetts Whip Mistress
From: nrb929
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:19:35 GMT

Kind, sincere, lover of historical discipline is seeking a lady
in Western Massachusetts who would enjoy administering an old
fashioned bareback whipping. I am fascinated by this basic form
of punishment that so clearly exhibits the woman's complete
authority while at the same time forms a bond with the slave she
is lashing. No clubs or meeting groups, just a Mistress/slave
relationship in it's simplest form, where correction means a
shirtless whipping in the barn or basement.

Perhaps we could meet on a regular basis and in return for your
administering these whippings I could do work on your farm or
perform assigned chores around your house. I can assure you that
I am kind, honest, employed and discrete. I will remain
respectful to my Mistress and hope to form a long-term
friendship that could also include some 'vanilla activities'
(dinner, movies) if you so choose. Thank you.

nrb929@netzero.com
email address info

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P: Real domestic slave wannabe
Date: 1 Aug 2009 17:15:11 -0000
From: Luis Armitage

Interested in real domestic slavery for which i can relocate
everywhere.

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Re: P: Real domestic slave wannabe
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:20:03 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

Luis Armitage wrote:

>Interested in real domestic slavery for which i can relocate
>everywhere.

Your post is far too short and as it doesn't say anything at all
about you or provide contact details I'm not sure who will be
interested or how they are supposed to reply. You didn't reply
to my private email so we know nothing about you.

Suggest you write a longer post.

For further guidelines see:-

http://u4ds.com/admin/posting/

I suggest reading the guidelines thoroughly, and then writing a
long and sincere introduction in the P: section. (personal ads)

http://u4ds.com/how_to_get_in_direct_contact.shtml

Be sure to avoid brief descriptions, women want to know all
about you, your hopes, desires, interests and ambitions in life,
not just the sex.

sincerely,
Christine

The DOMestic discussion list. Now in our thirteenth year. The
password site now has over 6,700 files with well over 400
stories, plus pictures, and hundreds of articles. $26.99 for a
one year password. $16.99 for six months at

http://www.mschristine.com/domsub4.shtml#card

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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty-four
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:37:55 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-four

David had managed to endure the tawse without any more
misbehaviour, but during the cropping he had begun to resist.
Eventually Catrina was enlisted to hold him in place. She held
David tightly between her legs, her knees gripping his neck.

"Karin," Catrina suggested, "it seems that David needs further
lessons in good behaviour. How does he respond to the cane?"

Karin concurred with Catrina, "Yes, I think you are right, the
cane may well produce more servility. Another fifty two then!"

Karin continued with the cropping, both ladies grinning
conspiratorially, as they looked forward to the caning.

Christine left the scene, "I will be back for the caning, I just
can't wait to use the 'Toilet'.."

Sadine called after her, "Oh, can I watch, wait for me!" She
really did find the abuse of her 'Toilet' to be the most fun of
all.

Madam Kwai was planning her own pleasures, she removed her
panties and dropped them under the Table's nose. She did love to
make him jealous.

'Table' was aware of Adra moving into position between his
Mistress' legs and envied her. He was rarely allowed any contact
with her himself, he was almost permanently used as a piece of
furniture of one sort or another. Madam Kwai regularly took
lovers while he was in the room as a 'Table' or 'Footrest'. She
sometimes invited her lovers to use him as a chair.

Madam Kwai removed Adra's gag, and Adra worked her tongue out
through the mouth hole of her hood and put it to use in the way
Madam Kwai liked best.

Sadine and Christine were animated and cheerful as they talked,
coming downstairs in time for the caning. They both watched
appreciatively as they admired the pace and skill which Karin
showed as she applied the fifty two cuts of the cane at a very
brisk pace.

David's pain was so intense that he had entered an almost
trancelike state. He was hypnotising himself into a complete
state of surrender. He was thinking with every stroke, 'I will
obey'.

The speed at which the strokes were delivered built to an almost
frenzied pace as Karin passed fifty two and gave up counting.
Mistress and slave were both lost in another world together.
Linked by their mutual if different experience.

Marique and Madam Kwai were not in a position to admire the
consummate skill with which Karin administered the strokes so
rapidly. They were both entranced by David's writhing backside
as they approached their orgasms. Both were ignoring the
devotion, skill and application shown by the slaves Adra and
Pippa. Both were concentrating solely on the gratification of
their own sensory pleasures. Touch, sight and sound were all
contributing to their fulfilment.

Karin gradually calmed down and became aware of Marique and
Madame Kwai. She decided that she was not about to stop and risk
ruining their pleasures, related so obviously as they were to
David's pain. Were Karin in their position, and being so loyally
served, she hoped that another Mistress would show her the same
consideration.

Had David known that the agony he was now enduring was simply in
order that Marique and Madam Kwai could be provided with an
erotic spectacle to enhance and accompany their climatic
moments, he would be now praying for their orgasm.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This story is one of over 400 stories you can read on the
DOMestic web site. Support DOMestic. Renew / Get your
password at:- http://www.mschristine.com/domsub4.shtml

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
From: Christine
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:50:59 +0100

Hello jboy,

On 28 Jul 2009 you wrote:

>My wife misses the software....but she does fine without it my
>opinion

Having received your private details in the above message, we
sent you the software update by email on Wed, 29 Jul 2009 from
the support address.

I do hope your wife is now enjoying using it again.

You may need to check your bulk email folder if you haven't
already received it.

sincerely, Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.
http://www.mschristine.com/program.shtml

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admin: Yahoo and Topica subscriptions
From: Christine and David at Ms-Christine.com
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:20:07 +0100

Hello,

Yahoo! have now made progress on fixing the YahooGroups
membership bug we reported on previously at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/yahoogroups_membership_bug.shtml

The DOMestic new subscriptions were almost completely up to date
when I checked this afternoon so hopefully those who have
recently joined via YahooGroups will now receive the DOMestic
digest.

We have now provided an alternate subscription facility on our
web site for those who prefer to join via Topica at:-

http://u4ds.com/topica_subscription.shtml

Via Topica you can also receive either the DOMestic digest list,
or the FEMdom_sex list which gets a regular link message to the
latest DOMestic digest

If you prefer to get your DOMestic as a News Feed either click
on the orange "Feed" icon you should see at the far right of
your URL bar when visiting the blog, or see:-

http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml

sincerely,
Christine and David at Ms-Christine.com

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From: "Christine and David" at u4ds.com
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:20:07 +0100

Hello,

Yahoo! have now made progress on fixing the YahooGroups
membership bug we reported on previously.

The DOMestic new subscriptions were almost completely up to date
when I checked this afternoon so hopefully those who have
recently joined via YahooGroups will now receive the DOMestic
digest.

We have now provided an alternate subscription facility for those
who prefer to join via Topica to receive either the DOMestic digest
list, or the FEMdom_sex list which gets a regular link message to
the latest DOMestic digest.

You will be invited to register at Yahoo or Topica to use
their web site, but there is no need to register to receive
either DOMestic or FEMdom_sex by email.

Enter your email address into one of the boxes below:-
Including the bit after the @ sign!
For example:- yourname@abc123net.com
Then click the subscribe button.

If you prefer to get your DOMestic as a News Feed either click
on the orange "Feed" icon you should see at the far right of
your URL bar above, or see:-

http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml

sincerely,
Christine and David at Ms-Christine.com

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From: nrb929
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:19:35 GMT

Kind, sincere, lover of historical discipline is seeking a lady
in Western Massachusetts who would enjoy administering an old
fashioned bareback whipping. I am fascinated by this basic form
of punishment that so clearly exhibits the woman's complete
authority while at the same time forms a bond with the slave she
is lashing. No clubs or meeting groups, just a Mistress/slave
relationship in it's simplest form, where correction means a
shirtless whipping in the barn or basement.

Perhaps we could meet on a regular basis and in return for your
administering these whippings I could do work on your farm or
perform assigned chores around your house. I can assure you that
I am kind, honest, employed and discrete. I will remain
respectful to my Mistress and hope to form a long-term
friendship that could also include some 'vanilla activities'
(dinner, movies) if you so choose.

Thank you.
nrb929@netzero.com
email address info

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posted by: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
posted on: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:37:55 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-four

David had managed to endure the tawse without any more
misbehaviour, but during the cropping he had begun to resist.
Eventually Catrina was enlisted to hold him in place. She held
David tightly between her legs, her knees gripping his neck.

"Karin," Catrina suggested, "it seems that David needs further
lessons in good behaviour. How does he respond to the cane?"

Karin concurred with Catrina, "Yes, I think you are right, the
cane may well produce more servility. Another fifty two then!"

Karin continued with the cropping, both ladies grinning
conspiratorially, as they looked forward to the caning.

Christine left the scene, "I will be back for the caning, I just
can't wait to use the 'Toilet'.."

Sadine called after her, "Oh, can I watch, wait for me!" She
really did find the abuse of her 'Toilet' to be the most fun of
all.

Madam Kwai was planning her own pleasures, she removed her
panties and dropped them under the Table's nose. She did love to
make him jealous.

'Table' was aware of Adra moving into position between his
Mistress' legs and envied her. He was rarely allowed any contact
with her himself, he was almost permanently used as a piece of
furniture of one sort or another. Madam Kwai regularly took
lovers while he was in the room as a 'Table' or 'Footrest'. She
sometimes invited her lovers to use him as a chair.

Madam Kwai removed Adra's gag, and Adra worked her tongue out
through the mouth hole of her hood and put it to use in the way
Madam Kwai liked best.

Sadine and Christine were animated and cheerful as they talked,
coming downstairs in time for the caning. They both watched
appreciatively as they admired the pace and skill which Karin
showed as she applied the fifty two cuts of the cane at a very
brisk pace.

David's pain was so intense that he had entered an almost
trancelike state. He was hypnotising himself into a complete
state of surrender. He was thinking with every stroke, 'I will
obey'.

The speed at which the strokes were delivered built to an almost
frenzied pace as Karin passed fifty two and gave up counting.
Mistress and slave were both lost in another world together.
Linked by their mutual if different experience.

Marique and Madam Kwai were not in a position to admire the
consummate skill with which Karin administered the strokes so
rapidly. They were both entranced by David's writhing backside
as they approached their orgasms. Both were ignoring the
devotion, skill and application shown by the slaves Adra and
Pippa. Both were concentrating solely on the gratification of
their own sensory pleasures. Touch, sight and sound were all
contributing to their fulfilment.

Karin gradually calmed down and became aware of Marique and
Madame Kwai. She decided that she was not about to stop and risk
ruining their pleasures, related so obviously as they were to
David's pain. Were Karin in their position, and being so loyally
served, she hoped that another Mistress would show her the same
consideration.

Had David known that the agony he was now enduring was simply in
order that Marique and Madam Kwai could be provided with an
erotic spectacle to enhance and accompany their climatic
moments, he would be now praying for their orgasm.

Part Thirty-five is at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/08/bank_managers_cupboard_35.shtml

This story is one of over 400 stories you can read on the
DOMestic web site. Support DOMestic, get your password.

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Date: 1 Aug 2009 17:15:11 -0000
From: Luis Armitage

Interested in real domestic slavery for which i can relocate
everywhere.

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