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What chance that the research was done by men? But getting real,
how many guys actually get to have sex 21 times a month?

Surely not many Mistresses are going to pander to subs by
letting them wank almost every day?

In my experience dominant women rather like the idea of keeping
their men in chastity belts. And what's the point of a chastity
belt if he gets to have that much supervised sex?

Helen,

I guess you are talking about the "pee pee" movie?

As well as cock slapping, Christine also shows David what she
thinks of that "nasty business".

Why not let your slave jerk off, but only while you pee on him?

I think you'll find he is a lot less angsty after being treated
like a toilet, to quote Christine.

DT

Hello,

Adrian wrote:

>not many Mistresses are going to pander to subs by letting
>them wank almost every day?

I agree. My Mistress doesn't _let_ me wank almost every day.
Christine punishes me quite regularly for wanking. So even
though I do manage to do quite a lot of wanking, (almost every
day sometimes) you could nevertheless argue that she is not
"letting" me do it.

Helen wrote:

>I've relented and let my slaveboy out of his chastity belt
>once nearly every day for a supervised wank, which gets his
>average up above the recommended 21 times a month

Perhaps this is not as exciting for him as it was previously
when he thought you wanted to control and restrict his
masturbation. I say this because you also wrote:-

>his attitude seems more surly than it used to be when I kept
>him frustrated and barely let him have relief once or twice a
>month.

Certainly for me, the Mistress who only lets me have relief once
or twice a month is an exciting phenomena. It allows me to
believe she is loving being mean and enjoying restricting my
behaviour. It is possible that he finds your kindness in
allowing him to wank more often less exciting than the idea of
you wanting to restrict his pleasure.

Helen asked for:

>suggestions on how I can give my little wanker more spurts, and
>keep him motivated

I think you should consider ways of making him pay a penalty for
spurting. And as you have control over it by virtue of a
successful chastity belt, it seems you don't have the option of
punishing him for secretive wanking as Christine does with me.

So I guess one way would be to supervise masturbation until he
is on the verge of spurting, and then offer him a choice. A cold
shower and back in the chastity belt, or pay a price for a
spurt.

If the price is severe enough for him, he may be able to have
the spurt you want him to have, while still enjoying the idea of
you being the cruel mistress he wants you to be.

The fact that you brought him to the edge before offering him
the choice allows him to imagine you did this because you enjoy
administering the "price", whatever it may be.

One price that always seems wickedly cruel to me is having to
accept a caning straight _after_ the spurt. This is something
that my Mistress knows I hate, so the fact that she wants to do
it must be because she is enjoying being cruel.

This kind of _doublethink_ may be enough to keep him "motivated"
in the way that Christine keeps me believing that she loves
teasing and denial.

Donald wrote:

>let your slave jerk off, but only while you pee on him

That is also the kind of cruelty that frequently works for me.

sincerely,
David at Ms-Christine.com

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Hello Helen,

you asked for:

>suggestions on how I can give my little wanker more spurts,
>and keep him motivated

For motivation, one important thing is the psychology. So you
may find he'll love it if you find some reason that you can
explain to him for another new change in your policy.

In my experience submissive men love it if we let them believe
it is because we enjoy seeing them suffer that we wicked women
are so cruel. (it may be poppycock but they love it!)

So for example you could explain to him that although you have
decided to allow him more spurts for health reasons, you've
realised that you are not getting the pleasure you used to get
from teasing and denying him.

It is after all true, as you did say about one of my videos:-

>"I loved the cock slapping scenes in her video, which I've
>done often prior to leaving him frustrated. Great fun!"

So it is fair to say you are not getting as much "fun" as you
used to get from slapping his penis and leaving him frustrated.

It is quite reasonable then for you to insist on some recompense
for this loss of pleasure on your part ;-)

The only one of my videos your description seems to apply to is
"Waters of the Queen" where I "Queen" David by sitting on his
face and slapping his penis both before and after taking my own
pleasure. I then leave him erect and unsatisfied.

In the end David gets his final denouement. (the "Waters" that
Donald also seems to appreciate!) as Donald wrote:-

>"Why not let your slave jerk off, but only while you pee on
>him? I think you'll find he is a lot less angsty after being
>treated like a toilet

So as you seem to enjoy that video I'm obliged to agree with Don
and David who both seem to think that you should consider
dousing him at the point of ejaculation as a suitable way to
allow him his spurts.

You might say something like:-

"You are getting your pleasures more regularly, so it's only
fair that I should have more fun too!"

But if that particular fun is not to your taste, just invent
some reason that appeals to you for some other penalty.

David suggested making your slave pay a price for spurts which
is something I agree with.

Let him know that you believe men should not be allowed too much
self-pleasuring as it's bad for their attitude, so you are going
to make spurting painful and/or humiliating for him unless he
has been so exceptionally good that you think he deserves a
reward or treat.

I often make David pay with a caning and as he mentioned
sometimes he has to pay immediately after he has spurted.

David wrote:

>One price that always seems wickedly cruel to me is having to
>accept a caning straight _after_ the spurt. This is something
>that my Mistress knows I hate, so the fact that she wants to
>do it must be because she is enjoying being cruel.

As you can see, the motivation of liking to believe I'm doing it
because I enjoy being cruel to him does seem to be part of his
doublethink.

He may not have realised it but I do also make a point of doing
this when he's recently been a bit moody! And as you said of
your sub/slave:-

>"his attitude seems more surly than it used to be when I kept
>him frustrated"

So these suggestions are all attitude altering ideas I think may
be helpful with your subbie.

With David I usually am more kind, and give him his caning
before letting him spurt. They find it easier to bear, even
exciting, if they are still aroused. But lest he enjoys it too
much I may well find another way to make the spurt itself either
humiliating or painful.

And Don's suggestion is always a lot of fun :-) It's really
quite amusing to hear him below me starting to moan with his
climax, and let myself go, dousing him right at the peak of his
pleasure.

After I've finished urinating on him, I'll stand up and look
down on him and I might ask him "What are you David?"

He now knows, having been taught this over the years, that the
correct response is, "A toilet Mistress".

As I say, for future motivation, and the happiness of your
submissive, it's generally good for them to think you enjoy
their humiliation.

But David should have also suggested the other thing I do quite
regularly to him. I zap him at the point of his climax, which
tends to curb or at the least modify the pleasure he gets from
spurting.

See my "remote control wanker" post at:-

https://u4ds.com/2010/09/remote_control_wanker.shtml

for more on using zappers.

Also, take a wander around your local hardware (or pet) store,
and you may find lots of stuff there that gives you ideas for
how to increase pain and humiliation during wanking. Take a look
at some of the working gloves for gardening and other work.
Making him use these gloves to wank with can provide a spurt
with accompanying discomfort.

Make him fuck the floor, or something uncomfortable that you
have placed on the floor for him to rub himself against.
Sandpaper is also a product you'll find on the shelves of
hardware stores. In carpet stores you can find some spiky
material that holds carpets to the floor.

As you can tell from the length of this reply, it has been a
while since a topic tickled my fancy as much as this one. And if
you'll excuse another pun, Adrian's reply "pricked" my interest.
Sorry Adrian, no offence meant. ;-)

Adrian wrote:

>In my experience dominant women rather like the idea of
>keeping their men in chastity belts.

You are right, at least as far as I am concerned. It was always
a fantasy of mine to have David permanently locked up. That
level of control over a man by way of a simple lock and key
would be great. (some women have achieved it)

Although regular readers will know I never found a belt that
satisfactorily met that fantasy for us, so I resorted to
questioning and punishment as my main means of controlling
David's wanking. But I do find that locking my zapper on David
is quite effective as a reminder of who owns his equipment:-

See pics of my zapper with lock attached here:-

https://u4ds.com/2014/07/locking_a_shock_collar_in_plac.shtml

>And what's the point of a chastity belt if he gets to have
>that much supervised sex?

For me, and I suspect perhaps for Helen, the point is that we
have control. We decide when and how he gets sexual relief, even
if some of us now feel that 21 spurts (or milkings) a month are
now necessary for the good health of the male animal. :-)

Some women, also like the idea of keeping his interest from
straying and having the reassurance of knowing he is locked up
when out of our sight. Also knowing that if he gets an erection
while out of our sight, perhaps even ogling a woman at work,
he'll be reminded of who he actually belongs to.

Adrian asked:

>What chance that the research was done by men?

Perhaps -chuckle- maybe even males who want to convince their
women to give them more sex attention?

I think the research is genuine. For some years women like
myself have been concerned over such a possibility. So one
method we have discussed at length here is to give prostate
massage as a way of milking a male for health reasons without
giving him too much conventional stimulation.

See David's post at:-

https://u4ds.com/2009/09/chastity_question_is_milking_j.shtml#c006873

for some discussion of that.

Adrian also asked:

>But getting real, how many guys actually get to have sex 21
>times a month?

Clearly some in the research group quoted in the link we
provided did. Even if much of that sex was masturbation.

>Surely not many Mistresses are going to pander to subs by
>letting them wank almost every day?

I think you are right, we Mistresses are not going to want to
feel we are "pandering" - Google it and the result looks like
this:-

"indulge, gratify, satisfy, cater to, give in to, fulfil, yield
to, bow to, humour, please, accommodate, comply with, go along
with"

and rather humorously they finish their definition with....

"David was always there to pander to her every whim"

It looks like Google may even know the name of who does the
pandering in our household. ;-)

But seriously and "getting real" Adrian. To allow a male a wank
need not be pandering.

For example, one of many techniques when I spot him in an
aroused state in the morning, usually after he has been ogling
me as I get dressed.

I just tell him to go and lay in the bath and wait.

I come through later, now fully dressed, and ask, "Do you want a
cold shower?" (what man does when he is in that state?)

I'm always amused when he answers that he does not. It's a bit
of a Hobson's choice for him as he know that I'm going to
administer the "Waters of the Queen" as a punishment for
unauthorised lust.

I tell him "play with yourself" and it's really quite amusing to
watch him getting ready to spurt, with my bladder full and
knowing what I'm going to do to him.

As he nears the end, he is looking up at me standing above him
beside the bath. He sees me raise my skirt and lower my
knickers, exciting him further, but he also knows what is coming
next.

Then as I perch on the edge of the bath I order, "get your head
up under me, shut your eyes, and spurt quickly, lets get the
nasty business over and done with" and then I start to let go
with my flow.

Then when it is over and I am stood readjusting my clothing,I
might tell him "I'm really very kind to you, giving you a nice
hot shower. A cruel mistress would have made you take a cold
one."

Then I might ask... "Well, aren't you going to thank me?"

As he thanks me for his pathetic spurt, I'm reminded of Raquel
Welch after she has given a man a seeing to with her dildo in
the film Myra Breckinridge.

Helen Ward wrote:

>Ladies and "gentles"

What a lovely turn of phrase. Yes, "gentle" is appropriate for
my "man".

>I saw last year in the news here in the UK that men should
>masturbate more if they want to reduce their risk of cancer.

Well, spurt more anyway.

It doesn't have to be masturbation. I'm sure many Mistresses
could get their males up to 21 spurts a month with a combination
of sexual use, supervised wanks, spurts while he is being
shafted with a dildo, or milked via prostate massage.

>I wonder, how many Mistresses saw that item in the news, and did
>any change your policy on how often you allow your submissive
>"gentle"-man to "spurt" as Christine calls it?

Yes, I did see that in the news at the time. But as I question
David about his masturbation and punish him for it regularly.
I've always thought he was getting more than enough!

But David has just confessed in his own post above:-

>"I do manage to do quite a lot of wanking, (almost every day
>sometimes)"

Which sounds a bit too 'cocky' to me, so I'm going to bring him
down a peg or two.

I'll start by re-introducing the wanker's diary. This is where I
make him keep a precise record of his lust, his wanking and his
spurts.

When he keeps a wanker's diary I usually make a point of telling
him to make a note in his wanker's diary of "lust" if I suspect
his eyes are wandering at all.

It is great fun making him so nervous that I might add another
"lust" to his running total that he goes out of his way to look
in the opposite direction whenever there is any sign of an
attractive woman in our vicinity at the supermarket or on the
street.

When he denies he was looking, I might tease him with a remark
like....

"Well she looks very sexy, so you should have a quick look now
then you won't mind by paying the price later. It's only another
six strokes after all."

It's a lovely concept that a man should have to pay whenever a
woman looks attractive. ;-)

With all the women in skimpy beachwear around us this summer,
That is sure to result in me totting up quite a few extra
strokes for him. David really is a naughty boy who will benefit
from any excuse I can find to give him some extra discipline.

strictly, Christine

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Hello,

Christine wrote:

>David should have also suggested the other thing I do quite
>regularly to him

Which reminds me. I'm not sure if Helen wants to be actively
involved in methods of modifying his pleasure from spurting, but
if so, there is also your post about "pegging" here:-

https://u4ds.com/2014/10/he_is_only_allowed_sexual_plea.shtml#c009780

If Helen doesn't have a strap on, or wants to just supervise or
regulate, she could adapt your idea and make him use a butt plug
on himself and restrict him to the same one finger relief.

Christine wrote in that post:

"I'll let him use the tip of one finger of his right hand to
stimulate his own "big clitoris" at the same time like a
'girlie'"

and...

"he has to catch all the mess in the palm of his right hand,
which means the stimulation stops at the very moment he starts
to spurt."

and

"If any of his mess lands anywhere but his hand, then a good
thrashing follows"

and

"he has to lick his hand clean and eat all his mess"

I can assure Helen that this process makes me feel very
submissive, so it may help her with keeping subby motivated when
permitted the extra wanking Helen wants to allow him.

submissively,
David

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